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• 153[00:36:55] <Plan_IX> good evening gentlemen
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• 159[00:37:32] <annadane> good evening, Plan_IX
• 160[00:37:46] <Plan_IX> I am a bit shocked to see life in this channel
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• 162[00:38:26] <Plan_IX> unlike efnet the debian channel here is alive
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• 165[00:39:20] <awal1> Plan_IX, any debian support question you have?
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• 168[00:39:38] <Plan_IX> ido have some questions but i want to try something first
• 169[00:40:05] <Plan_IX> and i want to have everything in order the best i can before presenting the problem
• 170[00:40:05] <chomwitt> what are the cons of having an apache's virtual site under home dir and not in /var/replaced-url
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• 178[00:44:47] <Plan_IX> awal1, i seemed to have fixed my problem. however it has raised a question
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• 180[00:45:29] <Plan_IX> first ill fill you in. light display manager after entering my luks decryption password would just flash on the screen and never come up.
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• 182[00:46:08] <Plan_IX> i have fixed that issue from recovery mode. however i dont know where i can locate the log to see what actually failed as far is if it was a video driver issue or not.
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• 189[00:50:02] <jeremysalwen> The link from the debian wiki on how to build i386 packages on amd64 system is broken: replaced-url
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• 191[00:50:33] <jeremysalwen> Is there a more up-to-date guide on how to build i386 packages on an amd64 system?
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• 195[00:54:18] <awal1> Plan_IX, you mean lightdm?
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• 249[01:21:38] <deicide-> can anyone help me with installing tlp in my laptop, last time i tried(alone) even though i followed all the steps in the guide on their website it went pretty awfully
• 250[01:22:07] <annadane> ,v tlp
• 251[01:22:08] <judd> Package: tlp on amd64 -- wheezy-backports-sloppy: 0.9-3~bpo7+1; jessie-backports: 0.9-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.9-3; jessie-backports-sloppy: 1.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports: 1.0-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.0-1; sid: 1.0-1
• 252[01:22:47] <annadane> well, as far as installation itself you can just apt install tlp, unless you mean "how do i do it properly" (configuration and such)
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• 254[01:23:15] <deicide-> i guess the latter cause i couldn't get it to work
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• 259[01:24:10] <rob_debian> Hi all
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• 267[01:30:55] <rob_debian> Hi all, please, I tried to convert a .mp4 format file to .mp3 using the following syntax for ffmpeg:
• 268[01:31:00] <rob_debian> r4fkramer@debian:~/Videos$ ffmpeg -i 2 Hours of Celtic Music by Adrian von Ziegler - Part 1-jiwuQ6UHMQg.mp4 -ab 160k -ac 2 -ar 44100 -vn 2 Hours of Celtic Music by Adrian von Ziegler - Part 1-jiwuQ6UHMQg.mp3
• 269[01:31:27] <rob_debian> without any result. Please, where's my fault ?
• 270[01:31:32] <annadane> you probably need quotes around the filename
• 271[01:31:35] <annadane> because it has spaces
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• 273[01:31:49] <deicide-> ok this is my error "Error Thinkpad extended battery functions not available"
• 274[01:31:56] <cr1t1cal> what web browser should I use?
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• 276[01:33:27] <teatime> deicide-: do you have a thinkpad?
• 277[01:33:39] <teatime> deicide-: do you have a *supported* thinkpad model?
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• 279[01:34:05] <deicide-> i asked in reddit and someone said he is using tlp with the same model i use
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• 281[01:34:28] <teatime> but is he using the thinkpad-specific support?
• 282[01:34:31] <deicide-> so he made it to work.... somehow
• 283[01:35:07] <deicide-> i tried to ask for help on the thinkpad subreddit no one wanted to help
• 284[01:35:15] <teatime> you can use it on any pc, but it has thinkpad-specific addons that only work on *some* thinkpads
• 285[01:35:18] <rob_debian> Hi annadane, thanks for information ! In this case, is that correct the syntax used for ffmpeg application ?
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• 287[01:35:26] <teatime> you can run it on any thinkpad, though. so that's an important question for you.
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• 289[01:35:44] <deicide-> i just want the battery threshold
• 290[01:36:00] <annadane> not sure, i don't use ffmpeg
• 291[01:36:35] <annadane> but that's something that should be discoverable via a search engine
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• 293[01:37:26] <rob_debian> Please, annadane, should I use it like that ? root@debian:/home/r4fkramer/Videos# ffmpeg -i '2 Hours of Celtic Music.mp4' -ab 160k -ac 2 -ar 44100 -vn '2 Hours of Celtic Music.mp3'
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• 296[01:38:21] <annadane> again, i don't use ffmpeg but i'd probably avoid root
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• 299[01:38:54] <deicide-> can anyone help me with tlp on my laptop, last time i tried(alone) even though i followed all the steps in the guide on their website it went pretty awfully
• 300[01:38:55] <rob_debian> fine, annadane, got wrong here. It's not necessary using root user for this purpose, correct ?
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• 302[01:39:58] <annadane> probably not but i don't really use it so i couldn't tell you authoritatively, but a good rule of thumb is unless you have to use it just assume you don't need it
• 303[01:40:08] <annadane> for simple audio conversion i doubt it
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• 305[01:41:24] <rob_debian> I see, annadane, thanks for information
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• 307[01:41:50] <annadane> if you need root it will either say permission denied or "command not found"
• 308[01:41:52] <rob_debian> I used other application provided by debian in the past, but don't remember its name now
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• 310[01:42:38] <rob_debian> I had this output now: video:0kB audio:143934kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead: 0.000448%
• 311[01:42:51] <rob_debian> let me see if it's converted to .mp3 now
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• 315[01:44:37] <annadane> there's probably an interactive option or verbose option or whatever as well
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• 318[01:47:56] <awal1> rob_debian, use something like: /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -i "/path/to/your/file yourfile.mp4" -acodec libmp3lame -b:a 160k -ac 2 -ar 44100 "/path/to/your/file yourfile.mp3"
• 319[01:48:00] <deicide-> can kernel get updated through sudo apt-get update?
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• 321[01:48:24] <deicide-> maybe tlp doesn't work cause of old kernel?
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• 323[01:48:28] <annadane> no; update just updates the mirror to match the sources list
• 324[01:48:28] <awal1> that is what 'winff' uses by default
• 325[01:48:40] <annadane> you'd want... i think apt-get full-upgrade
• 326[01:48:51] <annadane> or dist-upgrade, i never remember
• 327[01:48:53] <rob_debian> it's running fine here, annadane, but in fact, you are right: I should have avoided using root user for this case
• 328[01:49:23] <annadane> update to update the mirrors, upgrade to upgrade packages safely, full-upgrade/dist-upgrade for kernel stuff/release upgrades
• 329[01:49:25] <rob_debian> fine, awal1, thanks for this information also !
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• 331[01:49:52] <deicide-> sudo full-upgrade?
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• 334[01:50:21] <annadane> i mean, if you're asking about the kernel in the context of tlp i'm not sure what the question is
• 335[01:50:42] <annadane> not particularly knowledgeable in that area
• 336[01:50:47] <awal1> rob_debian, you can use winff-gtk2/qt
• 337[01:51:23] <awal1> rob_debian, use something like: /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -i "/path/to/your/file yourfile.mp4" -acodec libmp3lame -b:a 160k -ac 2 -ar 44100 "/path/to/where/you/want/to/store/yourfile yourfile.mp3"
• 338[01:51:35] <awal1> a small correction
• 339[01:51:40] <rob_debian> oh, now it's clear for me
• 340[01:52:33] <annadane> oh i actually think full-upgrade is aptitude
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• 343[01:52:45] <rob_debian> please, awal1, does this syntax ensure the best audio quality possible?
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• 352[01:54:24] <annadane> deicide-, if you apt dist-upgrade, what kind of output do you get
• 353[01:54:29] <awal1> rob_debian, no much clue ; not really familiar with audio stuff cenvertions. I rarelly use ffmpeg or similar software; and if I do, I just use 'winff-gtk2'
• 354[01:54:39] <deicide-> annadane, nothing
• 355[01:54:42] <annadane> it ought to tell you whether the kernel will be upgraded, or else you can apt list --upgradable
• 356[01:54:51] <deicide-> 0 upgrade 0 newly installed etc
• 357[01:54:53] <annadane> then you're up to date
• 358[01:54:57] <awal1> well, I use ffmpeg via cli but , rarelly
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• 360[01:55:11] <awal1> man ffmpeg, rob_debian
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• 363[01:55:41] <rob_debian> I see, awal1, but I'll check it out afterwards. thanks for information and great support, annadane and awal1 !
• 364[01:55:45] <deicide-> the guy who told me i need to get newer kernel in order for it to work
• 365[01:55:59] <annadane> you may be able to backport one
• 366[01:56:05] <rob_debian> That's why I always say: 'Debian Warriors are the Best !'
• 367[01:56:06] <deicide-> like 4.11
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• 369[01:56:25] <annadane> ,kernels
• 370[01:56:26] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
• 371[01:56:27] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
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• 373[01:56:36] <annadane> yeah, 4.14
• 374[01:56:57] <golana> rob_debian, if the source audio is bad, you won't get it better with ANY target settings
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• 376[01:57:10] <deicide-> how do i know which i'm runing?
• 377[01:57:14] <annadane> uname -a
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• 379[01:57:23] <annadane> if you haven't backported you should be on 4.9
• 380[01:57:38] <deicide-> no idea whats backporting
• 381[01:57:46] <rob_debian> yes, golana, you are right, it will not be possible any miracle in this case, I see. Thank you ! :)
• 382[01:57:48] <annadane> !backports
• 383[01:57:48] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
• 384[01:58:03] <annadane> that said, i'm unsure the process of backporting a newer kernel
• 385[01:58:13] <annadane> replaced-url
• 386[01:59:05] <annadane> it may be as simple as apt-get -t stretch-backports install linux-image-amd64 (or whatever the architecture is) but i'll let someone who actually knows what they're talking about take over
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• 389[01:59:42] <deicide-> do i have to do that in order to get tlp support?
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• 391[02:00:00] <annadane> that, i'm unsure about. i don't know if it doesn't work because of the older kernel or not
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• 395[02:02:11] <awal1> rob_debian, again, you have winff, a front-end for ffpmeg. winff-gtk2 or -winff-qt if you want gui
• 396[02:02:21] <awal1> makes thing easier
• 397[02:02:50] <awal1> try to do everything via cli, is almost "impossible"
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• 399[02:03:39] <rob_debian> fine, awal1, I could convert here using the ffmpeg syntax, but with annadane correction, using quotes
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• 401[02:04:19] <rob_debian> but I'll study about this other resource you've told me, really thanks for attention, awal1 :)
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• 403[02:04:32] <rob_debian> always nice and glad when I see you and annadane here :)
• 404[02:04:40] <annadane> deicide-, sorry if i'm dense, but what about tlp didn't work last time?
• 405[02:04:44] <annadane> i may have missed that
• 406[02:05:00] <deicide-> i had the same error i have now
• 407[02:05:36] <deicide-> "Error Thinkpad extended battery functions not available"
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• 409[02:05:47] <annadane> i see teatime said "you can use it on any pc, but it has thinkpad-specific addons that only work on *some* thinkpads"
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• 413[02:06:59] <deicide-> pm
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• 415[02:08:02] <annadane> so yes you can probably backport a kernel if you need a newer kernel then 4.11, but i'm unsure whether to specifically recommend doing that or not
• 416[02:08:27] <annadane> i'm very much the wrong person to ask about tlp
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• 437[02:17:20] <deicide-> alright i'll wait few hours for different ppl to show up and ask again
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• 440[02:18:09] <annadane> okay, or try the mailing list: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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• 448[02:25:02] <muck> how outdated would packages be using jessie unstable? i have a ppc mac i'd like to use debian with
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• 451[02:26:27] <themill> "jessie unstable" means nothing
• 452[02:27:06] <muck> gotcha
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• 454[02:27:25] <klys> muck, do you mean jessie, stretch, buster, or unstable?
• 455[02:27:34] <muck> well
• 456[02:28:02] <muck> i guess the better question is, what's the latest version of debian i can use with a powermac g5? my understanding is that is jessie
• 457[02:28:16] <klys> how much ram does it have?
• 458[02:28:17] <muck> but then i'd be concerned about having 3+ year old packages
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• 460[02:28:53] <muck> 4GB
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• 463[02:29:44] <klys> muck, then that's not holding you back. how much disk can you devote to debian?
• 464[02:29:56] <muck> entire drive, 500GB
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• 466[02:30:12] <muck> the machine is a quad-core g5 that i'd like to use debian exclusively with
• 467[02:30:19] <klys> muck, might as well just run stretch/stable then
• 468[02:30:36] <muck> there is no powerpc release
• 469[02:30:42] <klys> oh i see.
• 470[02:30:55] <muck> "official" support was dropped
• 471[02:31:19] <klys> sounds like you'll need a cross-compiler on your pc too then
• 472[02:33:45] <themill> powerpc exists in jessie; it's still in sid for the time being
• 473[02:34:01] <annadane> it is? huh.
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• 477[02:37:34] <muck> so I can upgrade to stretch from jessie?
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• 482[02:39:58] <ryouma> i presume not existing means package targets, so presumably not
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• 514[03:00:26] <anthonym> Hey guys, very strange issue, however probably not to you; php5-fpm is running on my server, however apt-get remove php5-fpm states that it isnt installed. lsof shows port 9000 listening by php5-fpm, if I /etc/init.d/php5-fpm status it also states that it is running, I stopped it, however every reboot it is obviously back there. I've uninstalled nginx, php, apache2 isnt installed, etc. How
• 515[03:00:27] <anthonym> would i go about removing it?
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• 522[03:02:45] <anthonym> and surprise surprise, rebooting the server, and boom php5-fpm 491 0 6u IPv4 12013 0t0 TCP 127.0.0.1:9000 (LISTEN)
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• 525[03:03:05] <anthonym> how is it still there, even though 'its not installed'
• 526[03:03:20] <anthonym> Package 'php5-fpm' is not installed, so not removed
• 527[03:05:04] <abrotman> anthonym: dpkg -l | grep fpm
• 528[03:05:06] <abrotman> any results ?
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• 531[03:05:28] <jelly> anthonym, which executable file is that process using? lsof -np 491
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• 536[03:06:13] <anthonym> dpkg -l | grep fpm = no results, and now lsof -np 491 no results, because I service removed php5-fpm
• 537[03:06:14] <dpkg> No packages found matching | grep fpm = no results, and now lsof -np 491 no results, because I service removed php5-fpm
• 538[03:06:34] <anthonym> thank you guys, I removed the service using update-rc.d -f php5-fpm remove
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• 540[03:07:40] <jelly> removing the packaged or unpackaged leftover binaries is left as an exercise for the reader
• 541[03:08:31] <anthonym> thanks mate
• 542[03:09:50] <anthonym> great, and its back php5-fpm 509 0 6u IPv4 12154 0t0 TCP 127.0.0.1:9000 (LISTEN)
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• 544[03:10:17] <anthonym> php5-fpm 509 root txt REG 8,1 9138968 6040028 /usr/sbin/php5-fpm
• 545[03:10:40] <anthonym> php5-fpm 509 root 6u IPv4 12154 0t0 TCP 127.0.0.1:9000 (LISTEN)
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• 547[03:11:00] <anthonym> should I just delete the binary?
• 548[03:11:55] <anthonym> Log states, [23-Jan-2018 13:08:39] NOTICE: configuration file /etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf test is successful
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• 550[03:12:05] <anthonym> [23-Jan-2018 13:08:39] NOTICE: fpm is running, pid 509
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• 558[03:17:37] <jelly> anthonym, if you don't need it, fogure out which package /usr/sbin/php5-fpm comes from and remove _that_ one
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• 561[03:18:13] <jelly> don't go deleting files manally, next patch would bring them back
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• 563[03:18:42] <jelly> anthonym: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/php5-fpm
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• 565[03:19:00] <jelly> anthonym, which debian release is this supposed to be?
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• 580[03:24:18] <anthonym> thank you mate, sorry about that, bloody women.
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• 602[03:40:04] <deicide-> hello i'm stuck trying to do this replaced-url
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• 604[03:40:22] <deicide-> in point 3
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• 613[03:44:27] <Tencryn> I'm writing a bash script and I have a simple if `if [[ ! $1 =~ ^(.*)\..*$ ]]; then` which is fine but I'd like to split it into subdomain / domain variables. A domain such as `a.b.example.com` would have $SUBDOMAIN as "a.b" and $DOMAIN as "example.com". How can I achieve this?
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• 639[04:00:45] <tobiw> something like echo $FULL_DOMAIN | awk '{split($0, array, ".")} END{print array[1]}' would give you the first split. you'll probably need some more awk code (or somethign else) to combine all the subdomain ones and also the main domain+tld. sorry, just a start of some code I had lying around
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• 649[04:05:27] <Tencryn> Thanks for your reply tobiw. Been searching around and seen the use of `BASH_REMATCH` so thought I'd try that. This regex seems to work: `regex='^((.*)\.)?([^.]+)\.(.*)$'` then just [2] and then concatenating [3] and [4]
• 650[04:05:43] <somiaj> Tencryn: basename would probably do that for you, and there is #bash
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• 652[04:06:10] <Tencryn> Ah, didn't realise there was a dedicated bash channel. Good to know. Thanks somiaj
• 653[04:06:39] <somiaj> oh wait, nevermind, I was assuming example.com was known, unsure if bash can do this directly or you need to use some other regex tool
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• 674[04:22:25] <deicide-> annadane
• 675[04:22:53] <annadane> ?
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• 677[04:23:55] <deicide-> i'm checking now tlp stats and tp_smapi and acpi_call show up as not installed
• 678[04:24:01] <deicide-> even though i did install them
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• 688[04:30:43] <jelly> ,v tp-smapi-dkms
• 689[04:30:44] <judd> Package: tp-smapi-dkms on amd64 -- jessie: 0.41-1; wheezy: 0.41-1; buster: 0.42-1; sid: 0.42-1; stretch: 0.42-1
• 690[04:31:18] <deicide-> its installed
• 691[04:31:29] <deicide-> but its installed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• 692[04:31:42] <jelly> did it build successfully for the current kernel at install time?
• 693[04:31:52] <somiaj> you also need headers isntalled for the build to work.
• 694[04:32:11] <deicide-> what
• 695[04:32:39] <jelly> dkms is just source for third party kernel modules. They get compiled when you install.
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• 697[04:32:56] <klys> try dpkg -l | grep kernel; then try installing matching linux-headers package
• 698[04:33:26] <deicide-> whats the full command
• 699[04:34:09] <klys> eh, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
• 700[04:34:15] <jelly> deicide-, you should have seen output of dkms tool building stuff when you installed those *-dkms packages
• 701[04:34:19] <klys> then replace image with headers
• 702[04:34:36] <jelly> or just install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
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• 704[04:36:52] <tjt263> Tencryn: there's an easier way to do that
• 705[04:37:25] <deicide-> i have have hard time understanding either of you
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• 708[04:38:03] <deicide-> how do i find acpi-call.dkms tp-smapi.dkms and how do i install them
• 709[04:38:18] <deicide-> -dkms not .dkms*
• 710[04:39:27] <klys> change your /etc/apt/sources.list to include main contrib non-free; save the file; apt-get update; apt-cache search acpi-call-dkms
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• 712[04:40:15] <deicide-> why when its already on the hard drive
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• 716[04:40:53] <tjt263> if you're looking for a local file, use find
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• 718[04:41:13] <klys> deicide, the postinstall script is attempting to build new kernel modules for your linux-image-`uname-r` kernel. you need build-essential and linux-headers-`uname -r`
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• 722[04:42:02] <tjt263> find / -name 'acpi-call-dkms'
• 723[04:42:09] <tjt263> or whatever
• 724[04:42:39] <Tencryn> tjt263: is there? please enlighten me :D
• 725[04:42:44] <jelly> deicide-, you seem to be asking how to rebuild dkms modules. Install linux kernel headers matching your running kernel, then run "dpkg-reconfigure your-favorite-dkms"
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• 727[04:42:58] <deicide-> i want tlp to work
• 728[04:43:06] <deicide-> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
• 729[04:43:07] <dpkg> No packages found matching | grep linux-image
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• 733[04:43:57] <jelly> deicide-, and tlp probably wants some kernel modules. and dkms is a way to build kernel modules out of source.
• 734[04:44:34] <jelly> ,i tlp
• 735[04:44:35] <judd> Package tlp (utils, optional) in stretch/amd64: Save battery power on laptops. Version: 0.9-3; Size: 56.3k; Installed: 257k; Homepage: replaced-url
• 736[04:44:44] <beepnboop-> acpi-call-dkms is already the newest version (1.1.0-3).
• 737[04:44:44] <beepnboop-> tp-smapi-dkms is already the newest version (0.42-1).
• 738[04:45:09] <beepnboop-> +++ ThinkPad Extended Battery Functions
• 739[04:45:09] <beepnboop-> tp-smapi = inactive (kernel module 'tp_smapi' not installed)
• 740[04:45:09] <beepnboop-> tpacpi-bat = inactive (kernel module 'acpi_call' not installed)
• 741[04:45:17] <deicide-> here this is my problem ^^^^^^^^^^
• 742[04:45:26] <jelly> beepnboop-, are you and deicide- the same user?
• 743[04:45:30] <deicide-> ye
• 744[04:45:54] <jelly> deicide-, so your modules are not compiled (built) properly.
• 745[04:45:58] <somiaj> deicide-: have you installed the kernel-headers and build-essential yet?
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• 747[04:46:31] <deicide-> no idea, non of that is in the guide here
• 748[04:46:32] <deicide-> replaced-url
• 749[04:47:28] <jelly> deicide-, maybe that guide does not know how debian packages things
• 750[04:47:45] <somiaj> deicide-: you have been told you need those packages multiple times, so I would first install them. If that dosn't triger the build of the module, use dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure those two dkms packages.
• 751[04:48:18] <jelly> anyhow, I think repeating the same advice three times is enough, I'll bid you good luck
• 752[04:48:27] <beepnboop-> bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
• 753[04:48:27] <somiaj> also pay attention to the output you get, it will tell you it is building the modules and if it was sucessful.
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• 755[04:48:57] <tjt263> deicide-: you have a real live interactive guide trying to help you right here, right now
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• 759[04:49:13] <jelly> beepnboop-, your root PATH is missing /usr/sbin. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure
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• 762[04:50:49] <deicide-> okay its working, can u repost the kernel headers command
• 763[04:50:54] <deicide-> it says it requires it
• 764[04:51:39] <deicide-> install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
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• 766[04:52:29] <beepnboop-> install: missing destination file operand after 'linux-headers-4.9.0-5-amd64'
• 767[04:52:29] <beepnboop-> Try 'install --help' for more information.
• 768[04:52:29] <beepnboop-> jelly
• 769[04:52:34] <jelly> that was not a literal command, that was just general instructions
• 770[04:53:03] <jelly> you can figure it out on your own!
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• 776[04:54:12] <jelly> just install the package named linux-headers-$(uname -r)
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• 782[04:55:33] <tjt263> Tencryn: hang on
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• 786[04:57:19] <beepnboop-> jelly, i don't know how
• 787[04:58:34] <beepnboop-> anyway this is what i got from trying to install one of the dkms
• 788[04:58:37] <beepnboop-> Done.
• 789[04:58:37] <beepnboop-> Loading new acpi-call-1.1.0 DKMS files...
• 790[04:58:37] <beepnboop-> Building for 4.9.0-5-amd64
• 791[04:58:37] <beepnboop-> Module build for kernel 4.9.0-5-amd64 was skipped since the
• 792[04:58:37] <beepnboop-> kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
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• 795[05:01:05] <deicide-> oh nvm
• 796[05:01:34] <jelly> sorry, I don't spoonfeed people literal commands if they're easy to figure out. If you've installed other packages you ought to be able to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) as well
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• 799[05:02:53] <deicide-> it was missunderstanding jelly i didn't thought install linux-headers-$(uname -r) was actual command
• 800[05:03:15] <jelly> you lierally did just that.
• 801[05:03:38] <jelly> moving on...
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• 807[05:06:26] <beepnboop-> okay installed both
• 808[05:06:40] <beepnboop-> tlp stat now gives me this following error
• 809[05:06:42] <beepnboop-> tp-smapi = inactive (kernel module 'tp_smapi' load error)
• 810[05:07:13] <deicide-> wait i'll just restart first
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• 813[05:07:41] <tjt263> Tencryn: replaced-url
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• 817[05:11:00] <Tencryn> tjt263: If domain is "a.b.example.com" I need "a.b" and "example.com" separate. That snippet doesn't retrieve the sub domains by themselves but still kind of cool to see. Bash is very confusing to me in comparison to many other languages.
• 818[05:11:15] <tjt263> I dunno what you're doing, but that error message seems pretty obvious
• 819[05:11:19] <deicide-> yea restarting doesn't help
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• 821[05:12:11] <deicide-> can updating to newer kernel help?
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• 823[05:13:02] <deicide-> cause during installation of tp-smapi-dkms i got these a few times:
• 824[05:13:07] <beepnboop-> - No original module exists within this kernel
• 825[05:13:41] <tjt263> Tencryn: yeah bash is a mess.
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• 864[05:44:58] <tjt263> Tencryn: replaced-url
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• 870[05:49:47] <j2j> Does anyone knows where I could get dbg packages for packages from security-updates?
• 871[05:51:02] <tjt263> Come again?
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• 876[05:53:48] <Tencryn> tjt263: will try that out tomorrow! thanks.
• 877[05:53:48] <tjt263> Tencryn: did that help
• 878[05:53:56] <tjt263> Oh ok
• 879[05:54:32] <Tencryn> I'll ping you if it does tomorrow as it's 5am atm.
• 880[05:54:57] <tjt263> j2j: I was talking to you buddy
• 881[05:55:20] <jelly> j2j, which package version in particular?
• 882[05:55:36] <tjt263> Tencryn: okay, well it works. The results are in the comments
• 883[05:55:54] <jelly> ie. is it missing from the usual dbgsym place
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• 891[06:01:31] <tjt263> Hey, jelly can you help me with this: replaced-url
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• 895[06:02:53] <tjt263> You seem to know what you're doing
• 896[06:03:24] <jelly> not right now, tho
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• 898[06:03:51] <rant> of course jelly knows what they're doing we are all figments of jelly's imagination :P
• 899[06:04:56] <rant> those are odd error messages I dont know I've ever seen FOSS say something about missing files and not specify the file thats missing
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• 901[06:05:48] <rant> tjt263: I've never seen anything like it in 15 years or so.. I'd highly recommend an strace which can be tricky if you dont already have it installed and your package manager is broken
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• 903[06:06:12] <rant> strace would help figure out what the errors aren't saying
• 904[06:06:41] <jelly> tjt263, did you do anything weird like attempt a crossgrade to other arch
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• 907[06:07:33] <jelly> tjt263, ldd /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
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• 909[06:08:14] * jelly tries to get more sleep, again
• 910[06:08:50] <rant> oh, that is the shared object? heh.. I thought that was just like a script file generating the error..
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• 914[06:09:25] <tjt263> Yeah the file is called http
• 915[06:09:49] <tjt263> Which is weird because that file exists
• 916[06:10:42] <tjt263> Here's the ldd
• 917[06:10:46] <tjt263> replaced-url
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• 921[06:13:08] <tjt263> rant: sorry forgot to tag ya
• 922[06:13:31] <tjt263> jelly: if you're still there
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• 924[06:13:41] <rant> tjt263: you got any major discrepencies to this? replaced-url
• 925[06:13:58] <rant> I'm on i386 so you probably got a minor discrepency there
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• 928[06:15:06] <rant> tjt263: preliminary info so far is looking like you lost a shared lib somehow
• 929[06:15:35] <jelly> tjt263: is this some sort of horrible raspbian/debian mix?
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• 932[06:15:58] <jelly> !raspbian
• 933[06:15:59] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
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• 936[06:16:40] <tjt263> No, I've never even used raspbian
• 937[06:16:42] <rant> jelly: you're tired and paying more attention that me.. heh.. I didnt even see the armhf
• 938[06:17:00] <jelly> tjt263: how did you install this os
• 939[06:18:34] <jelly> something wrong with that ldd output
• 940[06:18:40] <manifold> Attention! If you are using FreeNode, consider that you *must* obey scientific, political and historical beliefs of a small group of people that own that private network, otherwise you will be restricted access, read more: replaced-url
• 941[06:18:41] <manifold> Attention! If you are using FreeNode, consider that you *must* obey scientific, political and historical beliefs of a small group of people that own that private network, otherwise you will be restricted access, read more: replaced-url
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• 943[06:19:14] <jelly> yes, the beliefs that people should not be dicks to other people
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• 947[06:23:30] <tjt263> I didn't install it, imaged with an ISO i assumed
• 948[06:23:43] <tjt263> What's wrong with the ldd output?
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• 950[06:24:55] <rant> tjt263: => not found for one thing
• 951[06:25:00] <jelly> half of it is missin
• 952[06:25:00] <tjt263> More to the point, what has to be done to fix it
• 953[06:25:09] <tjt263> Oh
• 954[06:25:39] <rant> I showed you my output of ls -l, ldd, and apt-cache policy.. yours should be similar
• 955[06:25:45] <tjt263> So its not just this one file that's rooted
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• 957[06:26:17] <jelly> what does "rooted" mean
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• 959[06:27:01] <jelly> tjt263: where did you get that iso?
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• 964[06:30:30] <tjt263> Rooted? Fucked, screwed, intercoursed, pee in vagee ..'d
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• 966[06:30:56] <rant> interesting vocabulary
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• 969[06:32:04] <tjt263> Yes, I'm very distinguished
• 970[06:32:33] <rant> oh I noticed.. I was gonna offer you tea nad crumpets
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• 973[06:34:54] <jelly> tjt263: without any further clues, I'd say go reinstall. What does "uname -a" say on this system?
• 974[06:36:53] <rant> I usually check and see if there are any clues related to corruption or the cause of the damage first in situations were files are fubar.. I mean the not knowing the origin of the software is suspect but you could waste time if there is evidence of disk issues
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• 978[06:37:37] <rant> often that sort of thing is really obvious
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• 1049[07:39:40] <amazon-ka> This network is censored and free speech is disallowed, more info: replaced-url
• 1050[07:39:41] <amazon-ka> This network is censored and free speech is disallowed, more info: replaced-url
• 1051[07:39:42] <amazon-ka> This network is censored and free speech is disallowed, more info: replaced-url
• 1052[07:39:46] <amazon-ka> This network is censored and free speech is disallowed, more info: replaced-url
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• 1055[07:41:34] <annadane> sigh
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• 1061[07:42:41] <konish> It's opers of this network decide who is welcome and who is not on this network, more info: replaced-url
• 1062[07:42:41] <konish> It's opers of this network decide who is welcome and who is not on this network, more info: replaced-url
• 1063[07:42:41] <konish> It's opers of this network decide who is welcome and who is not on this network, more info: replaced-url
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• 1066[07:42:57] <konish> It's opers of this network decide who is welcome and who is not on this network, more info: replaced-url
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• 1072[07:44:18] <znxcb> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1073[07:44:19] <znxcb> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1074[07:44:20] <znxcb> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1079[07:45:19] <znxcb> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1080[07:45:19] <znxcb> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
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• 1082[07:45:28] <znxcb> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1122[08:07:03] <Sark> Quick question - anyone know how to get xterm to disable all the colors? I tried deselecting "allow color ops" in the menu.
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• 1125[08:07:28] <Sark> And I tried setting my TERM variable to VT100... That works to kill the color, but then I can't use the function keys in mc
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• 1140[08:23:18] <vergilzen> For any app, or just... say, a handful?
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• 1142[08:23:41] <vergilzen> If it's just ls colors, for example, you could just override the alias
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• 1144[08:24:28] <vergilzen> i.e. alias ls='ls --color=never'
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• 1147[08:25:21] <Sark> Well, I can unalias ls and that fixes the colors in the file listings.
• 1148[08:25:26] <Sark> That's how I have been using it.
• 1149[08:25:37] <Sark> But mc uses color. And I can't figure out how to get that to work right.
• 1150[08:26:21] <vergilzen> Okay, so it sounds like the question is more or less that you've got mc, and you like it, but not the colors. So you want to give it a terminal that doesn't take away your function keys.
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• 1152[08:26:33] <Sark> Yeah, basically.
• 1153[08:26:47] <vergilzen> I wouldn't know the terminal that fits the bill for you off the top of my head, but you could always go TERM=whateverterm mc
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• 1155[08:27:18] <Sark> Yeah - I've been playing with that - the various VT100-ish ones fix the colors, but then don't support the function keys that mc needs.
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• 1157[08:27:40] <Sark> It's annoying, because I can either see MC, or I can use the function keys, not both.
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• 1159[08:28:05] <vergilzen> So then it's really an issue of getting mc to do what you want, not blowing through terminfo until you find the magic bullet )
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• 1161[08:28:19] <Sark> Yeah, I'll keep playing with it I guess.
• 1162[08:28:41] <Sark> It's just that if the color is enabled, the file list shows up as a nearly solid white block.
• 1163[08:29:03] <vergilzen> it's been forever, but I'm nearly certain there's an override for that.
• 1164[08:29:42] <Sark> Turning off color in the menu for xterm doesn't work.
• 1165[08:30:03] <Sark> And my TERM variable is already set as xterm, not xterm-color
• 1166[08:30:22] <Sark> AH!
• 1167[08:30:34] <Sark> Found it. xterm-mono is a thing
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• 1170[08:30:50] <Sark> I can read it now, and the function keys work.
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• 1175[08:32:16] <Sark> Now, I just need to put that into the menu so that xterm always launches with that as the terminal type.
• 1176[08:33:28] <vergilzen> -b, --nocolor
• 1177[08:33:29] <vergilzen> Force black and white display.
• 1178[08:33:37] <vergilzen> second option in the mc manpage
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• 1180[08:34:12] <Sark> Ah, hadn't thought to look at mc's manpage. Best to fix xterm, so I don't have to keep doing unalias ls.
• 1181[08:34:34] <vergilzen> That's kind of exactly what I meant when I said you should look into changing mc's behavior
• 1182[08:34:46] <Sark> It's annoying to do an ls and find a big block of nothing where some of the stuff.
• 1183[08:34:50] <vergilzen> look into is secret code for "read the man page"
• 1184[08:35:01] <Sark> Well,I want to fix it for all applications, not just mc.
• 1185[08:35:12] <Sark> mc just happens to be completely unusable without doing something
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• 1188[08:35:42] <vergilzen> I'm confused then, since earlier I'd asked if mc was the only problem.
• 1189[08:35:52] <vergilzen> But cool on xterm-mono.
• 1190[08:35:55] <Sark> Sorry, mc was the one I hadn't found a workaround for.
• 1191[08:36:00] <Sark> because ls I can unalias.
• 1192[08:36:18] <Sark> I've had other problems crop up before, but mc was the one that drove me to spend time figuring out a solution.
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• 1195[08:36:43] <Sark> xterm assumes a color monitor, but without one, certain things don't show up.
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• 1201[08:37:46] <vergilzen> xterm assumes the monitor will handle rendering the color. If something is sent to it with color it's dithered to monochrome.
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• 1210[08:38:26] <vergilzen> So there's not really much demand for that
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• 1212[08:38:34] <Sark> Understandable.
• 1213[08:38:40] <vergilzen> Nor is there integrating a shell file explorer in a gui
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• 1215[08:39:52] <Sark> In this case, I don't know if X realizes that this monitor isn't color. I thought I'd set something when I was making the xorg.conf file, but I might not have (Or I couldn't figure out how to). It supports grays, but it only has the one analog input, which is connected to the green signal from the video card.
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• 1217[08:40:04] <Sark> So that means that anything sent in only red or only blue is invisible.
• 1218[08:40:41] <Sark> most things look OK, but, when a terminal window tries to do color, it gets unusable.
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• 1225[08:45:03] <vergilzen> I'm not sure how this is really debian specific though. It's all you figuring out how you want to customize your shell environment" This kidn of business doesn't vary horribly between distributions. xterm-color is xterm-color. Check your environent, and set it up how you like it I guess.
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• 1338[09:23:09] <Zegans> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1339[09:23:09] <Zegans> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1340[09:23:09] <Zegans> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1341[09:23:09] <Zegans> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1342[09:23:09] <Zegans> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1345[09:23:23] <Scheiner> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1346[09:23:23] <Scheiner> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1347[09:23:23] <Scheiner> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1348[09:23:23] <Scheiner> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1349[09:23:23] <Scheiner> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1404[09:49:17] <Kempton> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1405[09:49:17] <Kempton> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1406[09:49:17] <Kempton> Everyone who enjoy the dictatorship of this place can put that xkcd link some oper mention here up in their ass.
• 1407[09:49:17] <Kempton> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1408[09:49:17] <Kempton> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
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• 1410[09:49:45] <darxmurf> anybody to kick out those useless guys ?
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• 1426[09:58:10] <7YSAADJF5> I am experiencing kernel crashes frequently with 'apt dist-upgrade' on buster since about a week and a half. Have the impression is to do with systemd / kernel / libvirtd.
• 1427[09:58:25] <7YSAADJF5> Anyone experience how best find out what may be the culprit?
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• 1463[10:12:02] <zetheroo> zfs 3416064 5
• 1464[10:12:10] <zetheroo> don't know what that means though
• 1465[10:12:28] <darxmurf> it's loaded :-)
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• 1467[10:12:46] <zetheroo> yeah, I am sure it is ...:D
• 1468[10:13:08] <zetheroo> but is it using the variable set in that config .. that's the question
• 1469[10:13:24] <darxmurf> no idea then :D
• 1470[10:13:32] <darxmurf> don't hesitate to ask me if you don't need anything :D
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• 1472[10:13:40] <zetheroo> :D
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• 1503[10:35:24] <Iridos> zetheroo, check dmesg
• 1504[10:35:37] <Iridos> there should be a message from when the module was loaded
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• 1509[10:36:25] <Palmitesta> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1510[10:36:25] <Palmitesta> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1511[10:36:25] <Palmitesta> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1512[10:36:25] <Palmitesta> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1513[10:36:25] <Palmitesta> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1518[10:37:17] <Kling> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1519[10:37:17] <Kling> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1520[10:37:17] <Kling> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1521[10:37:17] <Kling> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1522[10:37:17] <Kling> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1524[10:37:17] <Erbach> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1525[10:37:17] <Erbach> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1526[10:37:18] <Erbach> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
• 1527[10:37:18] <Erbach> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1528[10:37:18] <Erbach> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here. More info: replaced-url
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• 1532[10:38:27] <Iridos> *sigh*
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• 1542[10:43:31] <Iridos> 7YSAADJF5, an error would be helpful… maybe you can get one with a console --> /msg dpkg netconsole … also, you probably want to ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, it focuses on testing/unstable … and also check the bug tracking system… e.g. replaced-url
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• 1546[10:44:27] <Iridos> possibly #886914
• 1547[10:44:28] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1597[11:21:08] <Tawn> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1598[11:21:08] <Tawn> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1599[11:21:08] <Tawn> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1600[11:21:08] <Tawn> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1601[11:21:08] <Tawn> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
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• 1605[11:21:28] <Weissman> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1606[11:21:28] <Weissman> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1607[11:21:28] <Weissman> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1608[11:21:28] <Weissman> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1609[11:21:28] <Weissman> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
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• 1612[11:21:33] <hdzedlnvmyvvmp> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1613[11:21:33] <hdzedlnvmyvvmp> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1614[11:21:33] <hdzedlnvmyvvmp> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1615[11:21:33] <hdzedlnvmyvvmp> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1616[11:21:33] <hdzedlnvmyvvmp> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
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• 1618[11:21:46] <altin> Hi everyone, I'm trying to understand when does one change the /etc/hosts line in 127.0.0.1 and add other hostnames despite localhost
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• 1620[11:22:13] <altin> should the 127.0.0.1 not be touched and only use 127.0.1.1 instead for the actual domain of the server
• 1621[11:22:21] <altin> ?
• 1622[11:22:54] <altin> exc my currect setup is 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
• 1623[11:23:22] <altin> and 127.0.1.1 server1.mydomain.org server1
• 1624[11:23:50] <altin> should the 127.0.0.1 have also the server1 and server1.mydomain.org? and in what order?
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• 1626[11:24:01] <zetheroo> I have set the zfs_arc_max in /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf, then did 'update-initramfs -u' and rebooted the system, but c_max still reads 32GB
• 1627[11:24:46] <loeken> altin, add server1 to /etc/hostname
• 1628[11:25:02] <loeken> then put "127.0.1.1 server1.mydomain.org server1" into your /etc/hosts
• 1629[11:25:23] <loeken> verify with hostname ( should return "server1" ) and hostname -f ( should return server1.mydomain.org )
• 1630[11:27:31] <Iridos> zetheroo, you can just set that in the running system using /sys/module/zfs/parameters/zfs_arc_max
• 1631[11:27:51] <Iridos> like echo 41231686041 > /sys/module/zfs/parameters/zfs_arc_max
• 1632[11:28:20] <zetheroo> Iridos: it's already set there tot he correct amount
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• 1641[11:29:42] <Brzycki> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1642[11:29:42] <Brzycki> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1643[11:29:42] <Brzycki> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1644[11:29:42] <Brzycki> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1647[11:29:42] <L0uhann> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1648[11:29:44] <L0uhann> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1649[11:29:44] <L0uhann> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1650[11:29:44] <L0uhann> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1652[11:29:44] <Nenna> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1653[11:29:44] <Nenna> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1654[11:29:44] <Nenna> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1655[11:29:44] <Nenna> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1659[11:29:45] <Bisema> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1660[11:29:45] <Bisema> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1661[11:29:45] <Bisema> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1662[11:29:45] <Bisema> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1665[11:29:50] <Boyland> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1666[11:29:50] <Boyland> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1667[11:29:50] <Boyland> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1668[11:29:50] <Boyland> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1671[11:29:57] <Yu> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1672[11:29:57] <Yu> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1673[11:29:57] <Yu> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1674[11:29:57] <Yu> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1676[11:29:57] <Seterdahl> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1677[11:29:57] <Seterdahl> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1678[11:29:57] <Seterdahl> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1679[11:29:57] <Seterdahl> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1681[11:29:57] <Lecce> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1682[11:29:57] <Lecce> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1683[11:29:57] <Lecce> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1684[11:29:57] <Lecce> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1686[11:29:57] <Lecar> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1687[11:29:57] <Lecar> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1688[11:29:57] <Lecar> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1689[11:29:57] <Lecar> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1694[11:29:58] <Waugh> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1695[11:29:58] <Waugh> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1696[11:29:58] <Waugh> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1697[11:29:58] <Waugh> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1699[11:29:58] <Paine> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1700[11:29:58] <Paine> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1701[11:29:58] <Paine> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1702[11:29:58] <Paine> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1707[11:30:00] <Hamdun> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1708[11:30:00] <Hamdun> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1709[11:30:00] <Hamdun> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1710[11:30:00] <Hamdun> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1716[11:30:05] <Behenna> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1717[11:30:05] <Behenna> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1718[11:30:05] <Behenna> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1719[11:30:05] <Behenna> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1722[11:30:07] <Galwey> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1723[11:30:07] <Galwey> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1724[11:30:07] <Galwey> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1725[11:30:07] <Galwey> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1727[11:30:07] <Doherty> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
• 1728[11:30:07] <Doherty> Opers of this network blame other people for being racists while making racist actions by themselves.
• 1729[11:30:07] <Doherty> PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON SPAM, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
• 1730[11:30:07] <Doherty> Why do you still stay on FreeNode? We are not allowed to talk about what we want here.
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• 1733[11:30:21] <Iridos> oh, come on
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• 1737[11:32:59] <celyr> jawn
• 1738[11:33:31] <hexnewbie> How do you get Debian's library architecture? dpkg --print-architecture prints amd64, I want to get x86_64-linux-gnu
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• 1740[11:34:20] <petn-randall> !goal
• 1741[11:34:21] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
• 1742[11:34:27] <petn-randall> hexnewbie: ^^^
• 1743[11:34:40] <hexnewbie> Find /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
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• 1745[11:35:17] <hexnewbie> Er, actually, it's the path to e.g. /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu that I'm looking for.
• 1746[11:36:11] <hexnewbie> By your answer, I get it the name of the architecture is not recorded anywhere?
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• 1749[11:37:52] <hexnewbie> I'm building a script on multiple Debian architectures (naturally, building an RPM and converting to .deb with alien, because building debs is insane). However, I need to patch the source of the program (which fails at ./configure) to locate /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu
• 1750[11:37:57] <petn-randall> hexnewbie: No, I'm asking for your overall goal. I'm assuming you want to use it in a script or so?
• 1751[11:38:08] <hexnewbie> s/a script/a program with a script/
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• 1754[11:39:30] <hexnewbie> Hence, I can't use $DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH that is available in debian/rules
• 1755[11:39:41] <petn-randall> hexnewbie: if dpkg_output == amd64; arch = x86_64-linux-gnu;
• 1756[11:40:02] <hexnewbie> petn-randall: Yeah, that would work, I guess :)
• 1757[11:40:05] <petn-randall> That's pseudo code because I changed languages midline ;)
• 1758[11:40:12] <hexnewbie> Thanks
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• 1769[11:43:40] <ptype> hi - any reason an apt-get upgrade would cause ssh's RSA key to be changed? (getting ssh error "REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED" on a debian virtualbox VM)
• 1770[11:44:15] <petn-randall> ptype: no.
• 1771[11:44:40] <ptype> petn-randall: thanks, very odd. on a VM as well.
• 1772[11:45:12] <petn-randall> ptype: More likely you've had a different machine with the same IP in the past, or you accidentally provisioned the VM to a clean slate.
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• 1774[11:46:09] <ptype> petn-randall: thx
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• 1779[11:48:54] <ptype> petn-randall: yes was the IP indeed, thx
• 1780[11:49:16] <petn-randall> ptype: Been there before, glad I could share :)
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• 1790[11:55:14] <altin> thanks loeken
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• 1809[12:04:38] <Row> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
• 1810[12:04:38] <Row> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1811[12:04:38] <Row> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1812[12:04:38] <Row> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
• 1813[12:04:38] <Row> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1814[12:04:38] <Row> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
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• 1817[12:04:44] <Nie^Cutes> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
• 1818[12:04:44] <Nie^Cutes> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1819[12:04:44] <Nie^Cutes> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1820[12:04:44] <Nie^Cutes> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1822[12:05:01] <Zelda> Hi. With the Meltdown and Spectre bug fixes in my kernel, my SSD is running 45% slower than before and now has the speed like a normal hard disk. lol?!
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• 1824[12:05:26] <SwedeMike> Zelda: probably still does a lot more IOPS than HDD.
• 1825[12:06:05] <Zelda> SwedeMike: Well, the IOPS doesn't really help me when I get a speed of approx. 50 MB/s oO
• 1826[12:06:23] <SwedeMike> that depends on your workload.
• 1827[12:06:23] <petn-randall> Zelda: Not much we can do. We're not in the CPU manufacturing business. You can always buy AMD in the future.
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• 1830[12:06:50] <Zelda> petn-randall: Oh, another troll who tells me "buy AMD"
• 1831[12:07:12] * petn-randall shrugs.
• 1832[12:07:13] <metax> XD
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• 1835[12:07:15] <Tawn> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
• 1836[12:07:15] <Tawn> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1837[12:07:15] <Tawn> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1838[12:07:15] <Tawn> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1840[12:07:16] <gpunk> Zelda: you could be the troller
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• 1842[12:07:27] <petn-randall> Zelda: Do you have any other Debian support question?
• 1843[12:07:38] <Zelda> petn-randall: You know that AMD is also affected, right? Troll :)
• 1844[12:07:41] <SwedeMike> Zelda: so now you need to decide short term what's more important, speed or increased security. Longer term there might be more options.
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• 1846[12:07:57] <petn-randall> Zelda: Only spectre variant 2, AFAIR.
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• 1848[12:08:04] <Zelda> v1 too now.
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• 1850[12:08:09] <Ouchida> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
• 1851[12:08:09] <Ouchida> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1852[12:08:09] <Ouchida> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1853[12:08:09] <Ouchida> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1858[12:08:16] <Macdonald> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1859[12:08:16] <Macdonald> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1860[12:08:16] <Macdonald> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1863[12:08:16] <Usdan> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1864[12:08:16] <Usdan> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1865[12:08:16] <Usdan> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1871[12:08:25] <nqxeyfbaajsgcbcp> Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here.
• 1872[12:08:25] <nqxeyfbaajsgcbcp> Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you.
• 1873[12:08:25] <nqxeyfbaajsgcbcp> Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want.
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• 1877[12:09:10] <shtrb> Zelda, there had been firmware upgrades that fixed some other things
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• 1880[12:09:42] <oo_miguel> on my 4k monitor some applications (e.g. uzbl) appear very very tiny. what can I do about this?
• 1881[12:09:44] <shtrb> Everyone should just move to good old arm
• 1882[12:10:01] <Zelda> I like security, why not? But 45% less performance ... come on.
• 1883[12:10:02] <shtrb> oo_miguel, check HiDPI and scale factors
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• 1887[12:11:34] <oo_miguel> shtrb: how,where do I check them? is this part of X settings?
• 1888[12:12:04] <shtrb> !HiDPI
• 1889[12:12:55] <shtrb> oo_miguel, your desktop envoirment (in case of qt it's scale factor)
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• 1894[12:15:40] <slax0r> what's +r ? registered users only?
• 1895[12:15:56] <Zelda> btw ... I'm still having a WiFi bug with my Intel AC3160 ... bug #849330, #776620, #815037, #... do you plan to fix them? I mean, they're open since 2015/16 and there's no progress ...
• 1896[12:15:57] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1900[12:17:35] <niko> petn-randall: why #debian-overflow is +i if you set a forward
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• 1907[12:21:27] <shtrb> Zelda, contact upstream ?
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• 1910[12:21:47] <oo_miguel> the uzbl interface itself scales fine according to my Xft.dpi setting, but the content (inside the webkit2(?) window) stays painfully tiny
• 1911[12:21:57] <Zelda> shtrb: Intel then, or what? I doubt that the microcode source is available ...
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• 1913[12:22:41] <shtrb> oo_miguel, replaced-url
• 1914[12:22:58] <oo_miguel> thank you
• 1915[12:23:55] <shtrb> dpkg HiDPI is Dots Per Inch (DPI) measures the number of dots or pixels per horizontal or vertical inch on a monitor, visit replaced-url
• 1916[12:23:57] <dpkg> shtrb: okay
• 1917[12:23:57] <Zelda> My WiFi works in other distributions with a newer microcode ... but Debian stays to the old one. omg
• 1918[12:24:23] <shtrb> You can try to catch the devs related to it at fosdem or debconf
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• 1924[12:29:16] <petn-randall> Zelda: You can always get the most current firmware from backports.
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• 1926[12:29:48] <Zelda> Yeah, even within the installer where the bug occurs ... omg
• 1927[12:30:28] <shtrb> Zelda, I will say the unholy word but you can try sid
• 1928[12:30:50] <shtrb> or getting it from backports
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• 1931[12:31:41] <petn-randall> ,v firmware-iwlwifi
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• 1942[12:40:26] <petn-randall> niko: I'm guessing because you don't want people to start asking support questions in there, and there's no other mechanism to accomplish this otherwise.
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• 1948[12:43:17] <niko> petn-randall: well, if you set a forward, you may want people to join the forwarded channel, if it sets +i, then i don't see the point about
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• 1951[12:44:23] <petn-randall> niko: The point it that people will then get an error instead of landing in #debian-overflow and start asking support questions in there.
• 1952[12:44:32] <petn-randall> s/it/is/
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• 1959[12:45:31] <Unit193> petn-randall: +mz and a bot to repeat a line about identifying or registering (alternatly, bot to set -i there when #debian goes +r) You're aware that without the forward, +r will tell them that they're not registered rather than that #debian-overflow is invite only?
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• 1968[12:51:39] <petn-randall> Unit193: Yes, the +r is only temporary until the spam wave is over.
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• 1974[12:52:05] <jelly> or +mz and have a couple ops answering actual questions
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• 1989[12:58:23] <wtw> Hey, I'm trying to build a package with "dpkg -b" but the compression takes way too long. How do I pass something like the "-z0" (for no compression) option so that dpkg-deb will see it?
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• 1991[12:59:09] <jelly> wtw, man dpkg-deb, read about -Z
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• 1994[13:00:12] <wtw> jelly: So I have to call dpkg-deb myself? I currently only use dpkg -b.
• 1995[13:00:23] <wtw> (which I assume will call dpkg-deb internally)
• 1996[13:01:25] <jelly> no, but that's the right man page to read about its options
• 1997[13:01:48] <wtw> -z0 is what I want (I guess)
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• 1999[13:02:18] <jelly> read about capital -Z, not small -z
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• 2015[13:10:53] <wtw> Ah ,I can just call dpkg-deb for my package and use -Z/-z directly.
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• 2019[13:17:22] <jelly> I thought -Z would be passed to dpkg-deb just like -b but maybe not.
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• 2028[13:20:35] <djp_> hi. attempting to install debian. have got to the partitioning section. have created a primary partition as ext4 bootable and now want to use the remainder of my drive as an extended partition. how do i set this up? when i attempt to partition the free space i have only the options of primary/logical?
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• 2031[13:22:02] <jelly> djp_, "extended partition" is just a container for "logical partitions" in MBR partition table format. You don't have to create it manually
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• 2034[13:22:42] <jelly> just create further partitions as logical if you want that
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• 2036[13:23:27] <djp_> jelly: i see. so just create a couple of logical partitions and they will be basically part of one extended partition?
• 2037[13:23:32] <jelly> yes
• 2038[13:23:41] <djp_> jelly: thank you.
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• 2073[13:44:46] <djp_> is it possible to format a partition as xfs when installing debian and if so how?
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• 2082[13:51:52] <choice> Hello! What are all those .old-dkms files inn /boot/? Can I delete them?
• 2083[13:51:53] <shtrb> Is it normal for not being able to install debian -gnome from live (non gui) if under 10 gb free ?
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• 2089[13:55:18] <petn-randall> shtrb: Does it throw you an actual error message or is it something else?
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• 2091[13:55:35] <shtrb> not enough disk space
• 2092[13:55:47] <petn-randall> shtrb: the live images have been buggy regarding installation in the past, so they're not the first choice if you want to install machines.
• 2093[13:55:55] <petn-randall> +on
• 2094[13:56:11] <shtrb> someone here asked about failed installation , so I checked to help with it
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• 2107[14:06:07] <Xano> I'm trying to install an APT package inside a Jessie-powered Docker container using the following command (runnable locally as long as you have Docker): `docker run tetraweb/php:7.1 /bin/bash -c "apt-get update && apt-cache search gpgme && apt-get install -y libgpgme11-dev && pecl install gnupg && docker-php-ext-enable gnupg && php -i"`
• 2108[14:06:19] <Xano> My problem is that this results in seemingly random errors, saying APT couldn't find the package
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• 2111[14:06:46] <Xano> I assume this is a problem inside the container (so Debian, or anything else inside it), and not the container itself.
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• 2114[14:07:15] <Xano> I'm not familiar with such random APT failures, and I don't really know in which direction to search. I am hoping someone here might be able to point me in the right direction :)
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• 2120[14:09:07] <Xano> It happens both on my computer and our CI infra.
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• 2124[14:10:04] <shtrb> Xano why do you search for gpme
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• 2127[14:11:05] <themill> I wonder if using a stretch image that already has php7 available would be easier than jessie plus 3rd party repos
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• 2131[14:19:47] <babilen> themill: It has to be 7.1 not the horribly outdated 7.0 in stretch ;)
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• 2135[14:20:07] <babilen> (admittedly that should be based on stretch also)
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• 2137[14:20:53] <themill> *sob*
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• 2149[14:27:19] <Xano> shtrb, Because that's a left-over from debugging the command :) The search can be taken out of that example
• 2150[14:27:54] <Xano> So both on my machine, as well as on the off-site CI infra, sometimes libgpgme11-dev can be found, and sometimes it cannot.
• 2151[14:28:31] <petn-randall> Xano: The exact error would be interesting.
• 2152[14:29:17] <Xano> replaced-url
• 2153[14:29:46] <Xano> Twice the same command on a fresh container, but different results.
• 2154[14:30:11] <Xano> There's a slight difference in the list of sources it goes through, and I'm trying to find out what that means
• 2155[14:30:24] <Xano> sources 11-13 are different.
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• 2158[14:32:15] <freezer> hi
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• 2162[14:32:33] <freezer> Is there any estimate when the two Spectre Patches will be available in Debian Jessie?
• 2163[14:33:47] <petn-randall> freezer: I'll assume as soon as upstream has decided to accept them.
• 2164[14:34:10] <freezer> and when would that be? :D
• 2165[14:34:29] <petn-randall> freezer: Go ask upstream. :D
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• 2167[14:35:31] <SwedeMike> freezer: since it was just decided there would be another RC for the latest upstream kernel, I'd imagine at least 1-2 weeks?
• 2168[14:35:32] <themill> Xano: I'd avoid httpredir.debian.org and pick a real mirror that works (not ftp.us.d.o either). That would help narrow down the problem at least.
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• 2170[14:36:12] <SwedeMike> freezer: guess follow replaced-url
• 2171[14:36:58] <Xano> themill, Oh riiiight that *is* added by my container, *not* a default :X
• 2172[14:37:04] <Xano> Well, 'my' container.....
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• 2175[14:37:34] <babilen> And you might want to look for a stretch based container. Do you require 7.1 as well or would 7.0 work?
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• 2177[14:38:05] <Xano> PHP? We really need 7.2 :)
• 2178[14:38:11] <Xano> Sticking to 7.1 for now
• 2179[14:38:41] <Xano> Trying to remove that httpredir source and see what happens then. themill Thanks for pointing that out!
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• 2182[14:41:27] <themill> Xano: in stretch and later deb.debian.org works well; for earlier releases it's just a pile of 301 redirects.
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• 2195[14:48:43] <hexhaxtron> Is there a way to throttle the bandwidth for all users? Like 500KiB/s downstream per user?
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• 2197[14:49:00] <celyr> yeah
• 2198[14:49:01] <celyr> use tc
• 2199[14:49:02] <tw> hexhaxtron: not without enumerating each user.
• 2200[14:49:17] <Xano> themill, That source was indeed the cause of the problems. Thanks again :)
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• 2202[14:49:23] <tw> but yes, you can do it with tc and an ingress filter.
• 2203[14:49:39] <celyr> :*
• 2204[14:50:00] <ashka> hi, I'm getting something odd with a jessie machine and a custom apt repository, getting "W: GPG error: replaced-url
• 2205[14:50:25] <ashka> I use this custom repository on other machines with similar configurations and they had no issue with the repo
• 2206[14:51:38] <themill> Xano: no worries
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• 2208[14:51:56] <petn-randall> ashka: Did you check that the key is actually in the keyring?
• 2209[14:52:09] <themill> (--no-default-keyring)
• 2210[14:52:32] <petn-randall> Also:
• 2211[14:52:33] <petn-randall> !bat
• 2212[14:52:33] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 2214[14:53:26] <petn-randall> From that snippet it's not clear if the key doesn't exist in the keyring, or if the signature doesn't match the files.
• 2215[14:54:01] <ashka> petn-randall: I'm not sure what you mean, since gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --verify says the signature is good and from the key I expect it to be from, I assumed that it is in the keyring. I removed it and added it back with apt-key but it didn't change the outcome
• 2216[14:56:26] <petn-randall> ashka: It's either a) you're importing key X, but the repo is signed with key Y, or b) you updated the repo but didn't sign the new release file.
• 2217[14:56:46] <petn-randall> ashka: That's why I'm asking for the complete output to check which one it is.
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• 2220[14:57:31] <ashka> petn-randall: I am using the same repository on other machines and none have had this issue with this specific update. pasting the info now
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• 2222[14:58:13] <BluesKaj> The default kernel drops me to a VT/TTY login with no response after enabling and starting sddm from the prompt on stretch 9.3. Oddly enough the recovery kernel logs me into the desktop just fine. Running nvidia-340 driver on the geforce 210 gpu, Any ideas ?
• 2223[14:58:58] <petn-randall> ashka: Instead of 2) you can paste the output of 'apt-key list'.
• 2224[14:59:09] <towo^work> BluesKaj, dkms status is saying what?
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• 2226[15:00:53] <BluesKaj> nvidia-legacy-304xx, 304.135, 4.9.0-4-amd64, x86_64: installed ,
• 2227[15:00:55] <BluesKaj> nvidia-legacy-340xx, 340.102, 4.9.0-4-amd64, x86_64: installed
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• 2230[15:01:18] <BluesKaj> towo^work, ^
• 2231[15:01:25] <towo^work> BluesKaj, you see what's wrong?
• 2232[15:01:29] <mail-man> how could I go on about troubleshooting a kernel-related issue? I get huge amounts of iowait (>600%) and lockups whenever I do I/O operations with large files, I have 5 new systems with HDDs/SSDs and i7 cpus where this issue happens, first it started on my buster systems, and after a few kernel upgrades, it started happening on my stretch systems.
• 2233[15:01:30] <BluesKaj> yup
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• 2235[15:01:59] <mail-man> should I just install earlier versions of stretch until I find one with a kernel that doesn't have the bug?
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• 2237[15:03:32] <ashka> petn-randall: replaced-url
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• 2242[15:06:48] <petn-randall> ashka: And the "signing gpg key id" you censored in 'apt-get update' and 'apt-key list' are byte-for-byte the same?
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• 2244[15:07:03] <ashka> petn-randall: yes
• 2245[15:07:07] <hexhaxtron> I got a certain process with a certain PID. How can I know the PWD of where that process is running?
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• 2249[15:09:58] <petn-randall> ashka: 'apt-get clean' and try again? Could be that apt has an old file and the webserver didn't update the timestamp.
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• 2256[15:12:44] <ashka> petn-randall: same error. I had emptied /var/lib/apt/lists a bit earlier for an (unrelated?) error about a file from security.debian.org that could not be updated ( replaced-url
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• 2258[15:15:13] <petn-randall> mail-man: If you can narrow down the exact kernel update that caused this, I'd file a bug report explaining the regression.
• 2259[15:15:38] <petn-randall> mail-man: But with the microcode updates from Intel being retracted, I'd bet they're the problem.
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• 2265[15:18:35] <introom> hi
• 2266[15:18:40] <introom> is there a go package in debian?
• 2267[15:18:52] <mail-man> petn-randall, I intend to report the bug, but I'd like to know what's the most straightforward way to go on about it, I'm only a medium-level technical person at best. Would it be possible to install a really old version of stretch, and then upgrade kernel versions sequentially? Or, can I only upgrade to the latest version of the packages?
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• 2269[15:19:24] <introom> install golang-go
• 2270[15:19:24] <mail-man> I first observed this problem about 1.5 or 2 months ago on my buster systems, btw
• 2271[15:19:25] <introom> find it.
• 2272[15:19:39] <petn-randall> mail-man: If you update the kernel, the old one should still be installed.
• 2273[15:20:19] <petn-randall> mail-man: buster breaks all the time, that's why it's not released yet. It's more interesting to know when it happened on your stretch systems.
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• 2281[15:24:51] <mail-man> petn-randall, I'll take that route in the meantime, then. But I was aiming to spend as little time as possible downloading and reinstalling different versions of stretch. I don't have older versions of the kernels because I did an 'apt-get autoremove' a while ago on all my systems. By the way, is there some sort of upgrade log I can look up to isolate all of the kernel package upgrades I've done so far?
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• 2283[15:25:49] <petn-randall> mail-man: /var/log/apt/history.log* has them all.
• 2284[15:25:50] <mkultramagnus> whats the proper way to run a command/script/utility, etc during startup in deb
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• 2286[15:26:10] <ashka> petn-randall: just used aptitude update for the sake of it and got a more interesting message: replaced-url
• 2287[15:26:34] <petn-randall> mkultramagnus: You could use the @reboot time in your crontab, or write a systemd unit file.
• 2288[15:26:43] <mail-man> petn-randall, I'll start there, thanks!
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• 2294[15:31:28] <ashka> petn-randall: fixed it, it was a testing/stable apt messup, apt was 1.6~alpha instead of 0.9.8.4 despite the pinning. sorry for the wasted time
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• 2297[15:32:24] <misty5> tune2fs isn't showing whether something s mounted with the acl flag (each ext volume has a default acl flag predefined that's used by mount). Any insight on that, how to see whether mount mounted with acl?
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• 2299[15:32:56] <petn-randall> ashka: You shouldn't be mixing testing and stable, that's even worse than running pure testing, and not even supported by us.
• 2300[15:32:59] <petn-randall> !frankendebian
• 2301[15:32:59] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
• 2302[15:34:19] <dudz> hi, i'm curious with the 'apt' package management command line tool, is there similar to 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?,
• 2303[15:34:41] <dudz> i'm running jessie on a system still and i wanted to see what i needed to do before changing my apt sources to stretch
• 2304[15:35:28] <petn-randall> dudz: 'man apt' will tell you about the options.
• 2305[15:35:58] <dudz> i did have a brief look there but i couldn't see something that described what i just asked
• 2306[15:37:04] <dudz> the man page on my system for apt is only a few pages long
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• 2319[15:50:08] <ingvarha> I'm building a custom library plugin package to match another custom packet. Is there a "correct" way to override dh's default multiarch setting, that is, put libs in /usr/lib/package/plugins instead of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/package/plugins ?
• 2320[15:50:44] <ingvarha> I ended up doing
• 2321[15:50:45] <ingvarha> override_dh_auto_configure: dh_auto_configure -- --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
• 2322[15:50:59] <ingvarha> which works ... in a way. It just feels a bit dirty
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• 2325[15:51:26] <alpha_one_x86> Hi, I follow replaced-url
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• 2327[15:51:30] <alpha_one_x86> *not
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• 2332[15:54:49] <petn-randall> dudz: it's the full-upgrade option.
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• 2335[15:56:20] <foxmask> o/
• 2336[15:57:01] <petn-randall> ingvarha: Well, installing libs in /usr/lib/ is dirty, so ...
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• 2339[16:00:04] <ingvarha> petn-randall: :-)
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• 2356[16:16:55] <Iridos> petn-randall, well, not as such… there's over 300 libraries in /usr/lib from debian packages on my system…
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• 2376[16:32:00] <thelinuxbox> hi, is it possible to reinstall a package without dependencies?
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• 2378[16:32:16] <petn-randall> !goal
• 2379[16:32:16] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
• 2380[16:32:30] <petn-randall> thelinuxbox: ^^^ What are you trying to achieve?
• 2381[16:32:50] <BanHammor> dpkg has a --nodeps flag that you could use
• 2382[16:32:50] <dpkg> BanHammor: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
• 2383[16:33:18] <petn-randall> thelinuxbox: packages don't work without their dependencies.
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• 2385[16:33:55] <thelinuxbox> i'm using xubuntu, i'd like to remove xfce4-appfinder but it wants to also remove xubuntu-core and xubuntu-desktop, is their a way to prevent that?
• 2386[16:33:56] <petn-randall> BanHammor: dpkg doesn't.
• 2387[16:34:12] <petn-randall> thelinuxbox: Then ask in #ubuntu, this is a Debian channel.
• 2388[16:34:13] <petn-randall> !ubuntu
• 2389[16:34:14] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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• 2391[16:34:49] <BanHammor> oops, i accidentally read the wrong manual, petn-randall
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• 2393[16:34:59] <thelinuxbox> petn-randall, sorry i also have debian on my other system with xfce
• 2394[16:35:24] <petn-randall> thelinuxbox: There it's not a problem, xubuntu-desktop doesn't exist there.
• 2395[16:35:32] <nikhil_> hi. trying to install debian testing (stretch) using xfce netinstall ISO on a dell XPS 13 9350. I want to set up encrypted LVM, but when i get to that part of the install there is no option like that. do i need to use a different disk?
• 2396[16:36:03] <nikhil_> also the touchpad does not move the mouse in the installer, only registers clicks. I wonder if this will be a problem when the full system is installed?
• 2397[16:36:09] <thelinuxbox> ok, thank you for your help
• 2398[16:36:11] <petn-randall> nikhil_: stretch is stable.
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• 2401[16:36:23] <nikhil_> petn-randall: indeed. I
• 2402[16:36:30] <nikhil_> I'm installing testing in that case
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• 2404[16:36:44] <petn-randall> nikhil_: You might need to use the expert install option, I never use the other setting.
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• 2406[16:37:48] <nikhil_> petn-randall: CLI based install? will do. i've got it next to me, would you mind helping me if necessary?
• 2407[16:38:59] <nikhil_> petn-randall: graphical expert install or expert install?
• 2408[16:38:59] <petn-randall> nikhil_: I might be busy, but just ask in the channel and anyone knowing the answer will respond.
• 2409[16:39:08] <nikhil_> thanks
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• 2411[16:39:26] <petn-randall> nikhil_: They should be the same except for the way it looks.
• 2412[16:39:37] <nikhil_> petn-randall: is the fact that the touchpad is not functioning correctly in the installer something to be concerned about?
• 2413[16:39:46] <nikhil_> or is it likely fixable once i've got something booting?
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• 2415[16:40:07] <petn-randall> nikhil_: Most things are fixable after installation.
• 2416[16:40:20] <nikhil_> nice
• 2417[16:40:30] <nikhil_> looking forward to running this debian for a loooooong time :)
• 2418[16:40:33] <petn-randall> nikhil_: If HW doesn't work, updating the kernel to the backports version often helps. Especially if the HW is new.
• 2419[16:40:42] <petn-randall> nikhil_: nice! :)
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• 2425[16:44:07] <nikhil_> I'm at the load installer components from CD stage. which are the packages i need for encrypted lvm? I'm assuming 'crypto-dm-modules-...' -- anything else?
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• 2429[16:46:27] <petn-randall> nikhil_: anything contain the name "luks".
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• 2433[16:49:33] <nikhil_> petn-randall: my wireless card is not being detected. is that a problem at this stage? I have extracted the files i need from here (replaced-url
• 2434[16:50:00] <nikhil_> selecting the driver manually in the list that is presented but it complains it can't find the ethernet driver.
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• 2436[16:50:43] <nikhil_> *drcm == brcm
• 2437[16:50:47] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
• 2438[16:50:47] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
• 2439[16:50:48] <Iridos> your line ends with "but it do"
• 2440[16:51:14] <petn-randall> nikhil_: You could use this ^^^. Or just install via Ethernet and install it after installating the system.
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• 2443[16:53:02] <nikhil_> no ethernet card on this box. petn-randall: i only have a windows box atm
• 2444[16:53:22] <nikhil_> is there a way to get the firmware onto the installation medium if i just have windows
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• 2448[16:54:48] <DammitJim> do you guys have any good suggestions for a highly available network file system?
• 2449[16:55:05] <DammitJim> for sharing files?
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• 2451[16:55:21] <petn-randall> nikhil_: You'd have to check the release notes how to pass firmware to the official installer. I've never used this. I always used the firmware installer instead.
• 2452[16:55:35] <Iridos> I think I would just continue until the reboot and try to fix things then … the netinst has enough packages for a basic system…
• 2453[16:55:40] <nikhil_> !release notes
• 2454[16:55:41] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 9 "Stretch" are at replaced-url
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• 2456[16:55:56] <nikhil_> !release notes buster
• 2457[16:56:13] <nikhil_> !release buster
• 2458[16:56:15] <Iridos> buster isn't released :-}
• 2459[16:56:33] <nikhil_> lol, then how do i check the release notes? :D
• 2460[16:56:57] <nikhil_> does anyone know how to add my wireless drivers to a usb netinst if i only have windows and the deb concerned
• 2461[16:57:18] <nikhil_> i have 7zip on the windows box and it can open debs
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• 2463[16:58:06] <nikhil_> strangely when i did the non expert install is showed me my wlan networks
• 2464[16:58:40] <Iridos> as I said… I would just wait until the reboot from the install medium to the disk… but I haven't done that a longish time…
• 2465[16:59:03] <nikhil_> oh, right, that should be ok then
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• 2469[17:03:19] <wpostma> i would avoid netinst if your base system needs custom wifi drivers. a full size debian installer onto a usb stick guarantees no wasted time
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• 2475[17:08:43] <petn-randall> wpostma: that's what the firmware installer is for ... :)
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• 2479[17:11:47] <n-iCe> replaced-url
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• 2482[17:13:59] <alkisg> n-iCe: usually bad sdcard, I don't see a device node there. Run `udevadm monitor`, remove/insert card, and see if you get any mentions about /dev/sdb nodes
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• 2484[17:15:45] <n-iCe> replaced-url
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• 2487[17:16:11] <n-iCe> what does that mean
• 2488[17:17:12] <alkisg> n-iCe: and `ls /dev/sdb` says file not found after that?
• 2489[17:18:25] <n-iCe> alkisg: ls /dev/sdb
• 2490[17:18:26] <n-iCe> /dev/sdb
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• 2493[17:18:55] <alkisg> n-iCe: what's the output of that? sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null bs=512 count=1
• 2494[17:19:04] <alkisg> Does it say 512 bytes read, or 0 bytes read?
• 2495[17:19:26] <n-iCe> dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': No medium found
• 2496[17:19:40] <alkisg> n-iCe: right, bad sd card, throw it away
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• 2498[17:19:56] <n-iCe> dammit, really?
• 2499[17:19:57] <n-iCe> is new lol
• 2500[17:20:20] <alkisg> How new, one year new?
• 2501[17:20:31] <alkisg> Then send it back for refund/replacement
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• 2503[17:21:04] <n-iCe> well a week new lol
• 2504[17:21:18] <n-iCe> and I just used it till now
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• 2507[17:21:34] <alkisg> And how did it break?
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• 2509[17:21:58] <n-iCe> not sure, was in its package
• 2510[17:21:59] <n-iCe> closed
• 2511[17:22:19] <n-iCe> is it posible that my old laptop does not recognie a 128 sdcard?
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• 2513[17:22:34] <alkisg> How old?
• 2514[17:22:42] <n-iCe> really old, let me check
• 2515[17:22:52] <alkisg> Does it recognize 128+ Gb hard disks?
• 2516[17:22:56] <Thedarkb> How do you dump the first 50 gigabytes from a block device with DD?
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• 2518[17:23:08] <bitSt0rm> Problem I have been struggling with for days now - I'm configuring a Raspberry Pi as an IRC server but setting up an static IP is troublesome in Stretch compared to Jessie -- Made a mistake which resulted in error with the dhcp-daemon I think, can someone help me solve the issue please? (The problem concerns dhcp-daemon and interfaces)
• 2519[17:23:34] <n-iCe> alkisg: no idea
• 2520[17:23:39] <n-iCe> it is a 2006 laptop
• 2521[17:23:44] <n-iCe> I use it with debian and i3
• 2522[17:23:48] <n-iCe> 1gb ram centrino duo
• 2523[17:23:55] <bitSt0rm> I have (I believe) setup the correct network information in, 1st. step is to confirm this I think
• 2524[17:24:08] <Thedarkb> My X40 won't recognise SDs bigger than 32 gigs.
• 2525[17:24:15] <alkisg> n-iCe: there was an 128 gb bios barrier for hard disks, but I think it was solved before 2006, so no, I don't think that's the issue
• 2526[17:24:16] <Thedarkb> Made in 2005
• 2527[17:24:24] <Thedarkb> Vanilla Centrino.
• 2528[17:25:00] <bitSt0rm> Please let me know, if someone can spare 10minutes. Would highly appreciate!
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• 2531[17:25:36] <n-iCe> dammit alkisg
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• 2533[17:25:38] <n-iCe> thanks
• 2534[17:25:58] <petn-randall> !raspbian
• 2535[17:25:58] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
• 2536[17:26:10] <petn-randall> bitSt0rm: Try asking in the raspbian channel. ^^^
• 2537[17:26:16] <bitSt0rm> Ok thanks :)
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• 2572[17:43:27] <nikhil_> is there a way to use rescue mode from the installation media to add the EFI path for grub
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• 2576[17:47:01] <nikhil_> nevermind, just gonna resinstall
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• 2622[18:15:16] <kion> sorry for my ignorance I apologize beforehand, Is Debian doing something to mitigate Spectre and meltdown? Is it something only intel can do? where are we (users of Debian) sitting on that?
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• 2632[18:20:34] <JustASlacker> you wait for the kernel update
• 2633[18:20:36] <Iridos> the kernel patch against spectre is in the current debian kernel from security.debian.org… and there's an "intel microcode" package
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• 2635[18:20:45] <JustASlacker> and see if hardware guys provided firmware updates
• 2636[18:20:52] <Iridos> dpkg, meltdown
• 2637[18:20:53] <dpkg> meltdown is probably replaced-url
• 2638[18:20:56] <Iridos> dpkg, spectre
• 2639[18:20:56] <dpkg> hmm... spectre is replaced-url
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• 2641[18:21:20] <JustASlacker> there are reports of unexpected reboots, tho
• 2642[18:21:25] <JustASlacker> tread with care :D
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• 2645[18:22:01] <Iridos> on the intel microcode thing, yes
• 2646[18:22:26] <Iridos> I only upgraded the kernel… but I only have a desktop anyway
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• 2660[18:37:19] <jhutchins_wk> We took a significant hit after we patched our VMWare farm.
• 2661[18:37:45] <jhutchins_wk> All CPUs at 100% during OS updates on the guests, that didn't use to happen.
• 2662[18:38:27] <JustASlacker> vmware had a kb, telling people to roll back
• 2663[18:38:56] <annadane> i got an intel-microcode update today in sid and the changelog mentions a regression
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• 2737[19:17:56] <TheMess> Whats good people
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• 2740[19:20:09] <JustASlacker> centos?
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• 2773[19:34:23] <regdude> Hi! I just installed no-gui debian and found that my firewall is blocking UDP 123, which is NTP. Anyone knows where by default can be NTP configured? Cant seem to find it being installed either. Just want to set my own NTP server instead
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• 2775[19:35:14] <JustASlacker> /etc/ntp.conf
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• 2778[19:35:45] <regdude> JustASlacker: does not exist
• 2779[19:35:55] <JustASlacker> apt install ntp
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• 2781[19:36:13] <regdude> but I want to find the default one, who keeps sending those NTP requests
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• 2784[19:36:39] <JustASlacker> you want to find the process that uses udp 123?
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• 2786[19:36:54] <regdude> already tried that
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• 2789[19:37:05] <regdude> it seems to be running only for a second
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• 2792[19:37:44] <JustASlacker> so you have outgoing packets to udp 123?
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• 2796[19:38:41] <regdude> yes, to 178.16.23.50, 85.254.216.1 and many more
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• 2799[19:40:50] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
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• 2803[19:41:57] <regdude> tried that, not showing up there
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• 2806[19:42:12] <JustASlacker> what did you try?
• 2807[19:42:20] <hedin> Hey, I have a python-* "not-configured" issue replaced-url
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• 2809[19:43:12] <regdude> to use netstat to find the name of the service. It must be something that opens a new process and is running only for a few seconds
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• 2811[19:43:57] <Quatroking> is it possible to have a debian system reinstall itself over ssh
• 2812[19:43:57] <JustASlacker> regdude: auditctl
• 2813[19:44:22] <greycat> Quatroking: what do you mean by "reinstall itself", precisely?
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• 2815[19:44:33] <Quatroking> I have a headless machine that I want to redo but I am lazy and I don't want to deal with the hassle of grabbing a monitor and keyboard
• 2816[19:44:46] <greycat> You can reinstall all the packages, but that won't redo the ENTIRE installation process from a clean file system.
• 2817[19:44:54] <JustASlacker> well, pxe boot is headless :)
• 2818[19:45:12] <greycat> What do you want to "redo", and why?
• 2819[19:46:04] <Quatroking> the system I have running now is filled with crap from old installs and stuff related to projects from my previous employer, I want to re-use the machine as an rtl-sdr station
• 2820[19:46:12] <regdude> JustASlacker: ok, setting up auditd will take a while, but it might work, thanks!
• 2821[19:46:18] * JustASlacker bows
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• 2834[19:52:21] <regdude> great, the mysterious service does not use sendto
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• 2873[20:07:06] <BluesKaj> well, no luck with nvidia-340 legacy driver on stretch 9.3...something's amiss in the dkms module, and after attempting to purge the driver and header the system still fails to boot
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• 2877[20:08:28] <BluesKaj> the 4.9.0.5 driver
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• 2879[20:08:40] <BluesKaj> err kernel
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• 2886[20:12:10] <BluesKaj> anyway that's info that should be heeded for those with older nvidia gpus ..I'll try debian again later this year, but I'm giving it up til then
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• 2902[20:16:07] <DammitJim> what is the appropriate way to set up different groups to have different permissions on different directories?
• 2903[20:16:47] <DammitJim> like adding a new group of users to be able to rwx files in a directory that currently "belongs" to another group
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• 2906[20:17:20] <BluesKaj> oops
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• 2908[20:17:22] <DammitJim> ACLs?
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• 2916[20:24:01] <vergilzen> DammitJim: either that or create groups that have the appropriate permissions and add users to the "merge" group as needed from the other group
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• 2918[20:24:41] <DammitJim> one can't have a group belong to another group, correct?
• 2919[20:24:58] <greycat> correct
• 2920[20:25:01] <vergilzen> that'd be kind of difficult, but like if dir proj1 needs users from groups bloop read only and glorb read write, then add users to proj1-ro from the first and proj1-rw to the second.
• 2921[20:25:13] <vergilzen> In other words, it gets fiddly
• 2922[20:25:21] <DammitJim> totally fiddly, but doable
• 2923[20:25:27] <DammitJim> ACLs... I need to master them
• 2924[20:25:29] <vergilzen> Right OR
• 2925[20:25:38] <vergilzen> extended acls, as you mentioned.
• 2926[20:25:52] <DammitJim> I think I need to really learn how ACLs work
• 2927[20:26:09] <DammitJim> I'm lacking on a lot of things.. and ACLs are included in that
• 2928[20:26:15] <vergilzen> I usually don't mess with them because of portability issues (i.e. different underlying fs's are a road hazard in my environment, so extended ACLs don't work)
• 2929[20:26:30] <DammitJim> ooohhh... interesting point
• 2930[20:26:34] <DammitJim> what kinda of portability?
• 2931[20:26:49] <vergilzen> Well proj1 from my example might need to exist on a NFS share
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• 2933[20:26:55] <vergilzen> or on a UFS volume
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• 2936[20:27:05] <vergilzen> cifs... etc.
• 2937[20:27:22] <DammitJim> oh gosh, that brings me to a separate question
• 2938[20:27:32] <DammitJim> is there a recommended highly available file server for debian?
• 2939[20:27:51] <vergilzen> hrm. Debian? :D
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• 2942[20:28:06] <DammitJim> yeah, like some kind of software from the repos that is widely used
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• 2944[20:28:22] <vergilzen> I mean, I use debian generally as a file server
• 2945[20:28:28] <vergilzen> cifs and smb are easy to set up from base
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• 2947[20:28:39] <DammitJim> vergilzen, I've done that before
• 2948[20:28:39] <vergilzen> and iscsi is only slightly horrible
• 2949[20:28:56] <DammitJim> but I am looking for highly available systems... like the server is turned off
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• 2951[20:29:13] <DammitJim> that another server should pick up the work
• 2952[20:29:15] <vergilzen> Depends on what kind of environment you're working with I guess.
• 2953[20:29:23] <vergilzen> Is this for work or for fun?
• 2954[20:29:32] <vergilzen> At home I have a crappy qnap nas
• 2955[20:29:41] <DammitJim> LOL
• 2956[20:29:50] <DammitJim> right now it's for fun
• 2957[20:30:01] <DammitJim> but I'd like to implement it at work if I get comfortable with it
• 2958[20:30:20] <vergilzen> yeah then get a sh**y nas from microcenter that handles the protocols the industry uses if IP based storage is your goal
• 2959[20:30:31] <vergilzen> I doubt you're thinking of laying down fiber @ home
• 2960[20:30:37] <DammitJim> no no
• 2961[20:30:47] <DammitJim> I was thinking more of a pair of servers that sync data between them
• 2962[20:30:52] <vergilzen> Got it.
• 2963[20:30:58] <DammitJim> and if one goes down, things get routed to the other
• 2964[20:31:00] <DammitJim> something like that
• 2965[20:31:06] <vergilzen> I'd just set up rsync
• 2966[20:31:13] <vergilzen> to sync data
• 2967[20:31:20] <DammitJim> oh, I know I can do that
• 2968[20:31:27] <DammitJim> but I was wondering if someone was using something else
• 2969[20:31:40] <vergilzen> or gluster (disclaimer: I've never done it in debian)
• 2970[20:31:47] <vergilzen> and haproxy to handle rollover
• 2971[20:32:00] <vergilzen> but for any failover you'd need a 3rd box
• 2972[20:32:13] <vergilzen> I may be overthinking what you're trying to do though :D
• 2973[20:32:25] <DammitJim> sounds interesting
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• 2975[20:32:49] <vergilzen> e.g. raspbian -> box1 || -> box2
• 2976[20:33:48] <vergilzen> raspbian running haproxy - front VIP on the wan, box1/2 on the wired network. Keeps box1/2 private as well. Have 1/2 gluster the fs's together and share them out.
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• 2980[20:37:50] <vergilzen> So we're a long way from fs acls. But fun project. Good luck!
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• 2986[20:41:07] <DammitJim> no wan
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• 2991[20:45:51] <somiaj> DammitJim: there are various file servers depending on what you need. In the *nix world, there is nfs (network file server), but this can be complicated. On simpiler setups, there are fuse modules to mount a remote file system via ssh. If neededing to connet to windows networks, there is samba
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• 2993[20:46:16] <greycat> I think his main question is which of these can be made into a failover configuratin.
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• 2995[20:47:07] <greycat> You may want to add iSCSI to the list of unix-to-unix protocols here.
• 2996[20:47:43] <vergilzen> Excellent point. Yeah.
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• 2998[20:48:22] <vergilzen> Not to mention file level vs. block level storage. With iscsi failover can be through multipath and so on so it's nifty. NFS is the easiest to start with.
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• 3005[20:51:47] <DammitJim> so sorry to not ask a clear question
• 3006[20:52:24] <DammitJim> just looking for say a 2 server setup
• 3007[20:52:36] <DammitJim> and I access shared directories on that "cluster"
• 3008[20:52:50] <DammitJim> but it doesn't matter if both servers are up, or one server is down
• 3009[20:52:57] <DammitJim> I always have that resource
• 3010[20:52:59] <vergilzen> Gotcha.
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• 3012[20:53:05] <DammitJim> yeah, if I have networking issues, that's a different problem
• 3013[20:53:13] <DammitJim> just trying to address the "server" part of things
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• 3015[20:53:54] <raynold> WeWt
• 3016[20:54:07] <DammitJim> WooT!
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• 3019[20:55:17] <vergilzen> I guess there's a few ways to skin that cat. Personally I'd have both be iscsi and either mirror them in a md raid or in lvm as seperate pvs
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• 3021[20:55:47] <vergilzen> But, I guess it comes down to your comfort level, esp. if this is a learning project.
• 3022[20:56:05] <DammitJim> I'll be using VMs in a VMWare Environment
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• 3031[21:02:22] <DammitJim> man, if I am using ACLs
• 3032[21:02:30] <DammitJim> and I have 2 groups that have rwx
• 3033[21:02:57] <DammitJim> if I'm part of group1, I should be able to delete a file that was created by someone on group2, right?
• 3034[21:03:17] <greycat> To delete a file, you need w perm on the directory, not on the file itself.
• 3035[21:03:34] <greycat> Also, the stick bit on the directory matters.
• 3036[21:03:37] <greycat> sticky*
• 3037[21:03:46] <DammitJim> oh ok, so I need sticky
• 3038[21:03:50] <DammitJim> thanks greycat
• 3039[21:03:56] <somiaj> DammitJim: in many cases a sticky bit is used to keep user1 from being able to delete user2's files.
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• 3041[21:04:41] <DammitJim> to keep from or to allow?
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• 3043[21:04:45] <DammitJim> I just got confused
• 3044[21:04:54] * DammitJim is confused all the time, btw
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• 3046[21:05:43] <somiaj> DammitJim: A user needs write privlages on the file to be able to write/edit it. Users are able to delete files they can't write to, if they can write to the directory. The stiky bit is used to prevent users from deleting files they don't have write access to in a shared directory. (that clairfy things)?
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• 3049[21:06:22] <DammitJim> yes
• 3050[21:06:30] <DammitJim> so, I do NOT need sticky bit in this situation
• 3051[21:06:41] <DammitJim> I want to let somiaj delete files created by dammitjim
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• 3054[21:08:10] <somiaj> DammitJim: even files the user can't edit? If you want the user to also be able to edit each others files, you best ensure that the file mask is setup correctly to give the group write privlages to new files in the directory.
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• 3056[21:08:58] <greycat> Getting umasks set in the users' environments is the hard part here.
• 3057[21:08:58] <somiaj> the sticky bit just prevents users from deleting files that for some reason they have not been given write access to. Setting thigns up correctly avoids a lot of this, but there are still ways for somiaj to create a file that dammitjim cannot write to, even though dammitjim cna delete it.
• 3058[21:09:34] <DammitJim> ah ok, that's what I need umask
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• 3060[21:10:06] <DammitJim> you guys are awesome
• 3061[21:10:10] <DammitJim> now this makes a lot more sense
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• 3063[21:10:38] <somiaj> isn't there some other bit that makes all new files get the permisions of the directory, that way you don't have to mess with the users umask? I think there is (but this only affects new created files, files that a user moves, or copies with something like cp -a or rysnc -a to preserve permsisions won't be affected by this)
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• 3065[21:10:45] <greycat> setgid bit on the dir
• 3066[21:10:59] <greycat> but that only changes the group ownership, not the permissions
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• 3068[21:11:18] <greycat> umasks have to be set in the user processes, on ALL the paths that users can take to get there
• 3069[21:12:03] <DammitJim> greycat, I'm going to have to read up on that... I think I know what it means to set umasks, but I'm not sure about the user processes and ALL paths
• 3070[21:12:10] <greycat> If you're not a purist, you can set up a cron job to enforce the ownerships & perms every hour or whatever.
• 3071[21:12:37] <DammitJim> yikes
• 3072[21:12:40] <greycat> DammitJim: well, let's say you login on a text console, into a shell. This reads your ~/.profile and other files, and you can just set umask in there.
• 3073[21:12:44] <somiaj> DammitJim: it takes a lot of work, and sometimes one just needs to go through and give the group owership and write permisions on files in that directory because there will always be ways that a user can create a file another user can't write to.
• 3074[21:12:51] <DammitJim> so THAT's why my one file server has "issues" sometimes
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• 3076[21:13:07] <greycat> DammitJim: but now let's say your friend judy logs into KDE with sddm. This doez NOT read her ~/.profile, so she would have to set umask elsewhere.
• 3077[21:13:09] <somiaj> but there are ways to limit the number of files that don't get created with correct permisions.
• 3078[21:13:29] <DammitJim> oh wow
• 3079[21:13:33] <DammitJim> so, let me ask a stupid question
• 3080[21:13:44] <DammitJim> is there a different way to deal with this through samba?
• 3081[21:13:48] <greycat> And then there's GNOME. God help you if you have GNOME in the picture.
• 3082[21:14:03] <DammitJim> especially because I'm realizing that the work that needs to be done is through a samba share
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• 3085[21:14:15] <greycat> Remote file access through Samba is yet another thing to worry about. I believe you can set umasks in the Samba configs.
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• 3088[21:14:54] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 3090[21:15:09] <somiaj> DammitJim: depends on how you use samba. There are ways to use it, so it acts as the middle man and all files will have a single owner. But there are also ways to let samba create files for different users using indvidual user permssions, and in that case you have umask to worry about.
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• 3121[21:28:42] <DammitJim> yikes
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• 3131[21:34:18] <DammitJim> man, this gets pretty messy pretty quick
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• 3159[21:48:19] <DammitJim> oh gosh, this is harder than I thought
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• 3161[21:48:33] <DammitJim> I think I'm going to go the lazy way
• 3162[21:48:37] <DammitJim> and I'm just going to add the user to the group
• 3163[21:48:40] <DammitJim> holy cow
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• 3166[21:48:59] <DammitJim> some battles, one just needs to realize that one needs to move on
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• 3171[21:53:34] <Nalle_> Hi, I think I got into a bit of a predicament and could use a bit of help if someone has a bit of time.
• 3172[21:54:50] <annadane> !ask
• 3173[21:54:50] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 3176[21:58:02] <Nalle_> Okay so here's the issue; I'm running Debian 9 and it looks like the apt autoremove removed excess packages such as network-manager which means the machine no longer sees just about anything, so I cannot re-install it from network sources. I do have the live CD on a USB stick. So: how do I tell it to install it from there to fix the issue? I tried adding the mount point to /etc/apt/sources.list but doesn't
• 3177[21:58:08] <Nalle_> seem to help. Any help would be appreciated.
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• 3182[22:00:31] <Trel> I'm having a issue doing something with telnetd. I'm trying to get it to drop directly to a bash (or dash) shell without any authentication. I thought I could do -L /bin/bash or /bin/sh but it doesn't seem to work
• 3183[22:00:48] <alkisg> Nalle_: do you have wired net? sudo dhclient eth0 would give you net access...
• 3184[22:01:45] <Nalle_> alkisg: Yes, the machine is connected with wired net and has currently a valid IP in my LAN and I think a route to gateway too but DNS maybe stopped working or something. Not quite sure what.
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• 3187[22:01:58] <alkisg> Nalle_: ping 8.8.8.8 => does it reply?
• 3188[22:02:14] <Nalle_> alkisg: Yes
• 3189[22:02:25] <alkisg> Nalle_: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
• 3190[22:02:33] <alkisg> Is this a broken symlink or a valid one?
• 3191[22:02:43] <maxzor> Hello, I am not up with the latest and greatest : can you run pure debian on raspberry?
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• 3195[22:03:28] <Nalle_> alkisg: if I read the output correctly, it says 0 bytes for the size.
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• 3197[22:04:15] <greycat> we lost him...
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• 3200[22:04:26] <alkisg> Nalle_: ok,run `su -` to become root and then run ` echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf`. Then see if you can run apt-get update etc.
• 3201[22:04:33] <Nalle_> Ahcrud.. closed the terminal screen accidentally..
• 3202[22:05:56] <Nalle_> alkisg: That did the trick, 'apt-get update' works now. Lets see if I can get the darn network-manager re-installed.
• 3203[22:06:03] <alkisg> Nalle_: wait
• 3204[22:06:09] <alkisg> Let's see what packages you removed first
• 3205[22:06:19] <alkisg> Run this: cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
• 3206[22:06:22] <alkisg> And paste the output here
• 3207[22:06:29] <alkisg> It'll show us what you removed
• 3208[22:06:40] <Nalle_> alkisg: OKay, a moment..
• 3209[22:09:39] <Nalle_> alkisg: Are you sure you want me to paste? It is a long list. I think it is a result of me trying to switch from systemd to sysvinit and when that didn't work the way I wanted, I removed the sysvinit and it left over a lot of packages some of which aren't related to it such as, for some reason, vlc and whatnot which I 'apt autoremove':d which was my mistake here..
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• 3211[22:10:18] <annadane> oh boy.
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• 3216[22:11:51] <TimRiker> ~ping
• 3217[22:12:32] <alkisg> Nalle_: I figured you removed some essential packge, which then removed some meta-package, and then autoremove removed all the meta package dependencies,
• 3218[22:12:46] <Nalle_> alkisg: Very possible
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• 3220[22:12:58] <alkisg> ...but if you want sysvinit instead of systemd, that meta package probably won't allow that, so...
• 3221[22:13:19] <alkisg> just check the list yourself and see which other essential packages you may be missing
• 3222[22:13:26] <alkisg> Wasmt
• 3223[22:13:40] <Nalle_> alkisg: Maybe. It's okay, I can live with systemd. I am just a bit of a old school guy so if I can repair my mistake, I'll be happy :)
• 3224[22:13:42] <alkisg> Wasn't there a debian derivative that didn't like systemd, that you could maybe use instead?
• 3225[22:13:56] <greycat> devuan
• 3226[22:14:03] <alkisg> Ah, then just locate the metapackage that you removed
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• 3228[22:14:16] <greycat> But sysvinit *is* a mostly-supported choice in stretch.
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• 3231[22:14:53] <Nalle_> alkisg: Thanks. I'll try by re-installing the network-manager and then see what else I might need .. that VLC atleast I need it back.
• 3232[22:15:06] <alkisg> Good luck :)
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• 3234[22:15:37] <Nalle_> alkisg: Thanks a bunch. If you're ever on this corner of the mudball, I'll buy you a beer :)
• 3235[22:15:47] <annadane> look into apt-mark manual for removing packages with massive amounts of dependencies
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• 3238[22:16:21] <annadane> though in the case of systemd > sysvinit...
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• 3243[22:17:28] <greycat> !stretch sysvinit
• 3244[22:17:29] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init", and reboot again.
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• 3246[22:18:38] * alkisg wonders if removing systemd is supported as well; and not just having both installed...
• 3247[22:18:44] <alkisg> (wrt dependencies)
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• 3250[22:19:52] <Nalle_> Thanks dpkg . I'll note those down in case I ever feel adventurous enough to re-try what I was thinking in the first place. I think I did something similar but even after reboots it still booted with systemd. I must've missed some crucial step.
• 3251[22:20:00] <annadane> dpkg is just a bot
• 3252[22:20:00] <dpkg> annadane: I give up, what is it?
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• 3254[22:21:47] <petn-randall> dpkg: are you a bot?
• 3255[22:21:47] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
• 3256[22:21:49] <petn-randall> :)
• 3257[22:23:04] <Nalle_> Ah right.. well anyway, thanks a lot guys!
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• 3286[22:42:25] <Trel> I'm having a issue doing something with telnetd. I'm trying to get it to drop directly to a bash (or dash) shell without any authentication. I thought I could do -L /bin/bash or /bin/sh but it doesn't seem to work
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• 3288[22:42:32] <apt> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of timriker)
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• 3291[22:42:46] <Trel> Anyone have any idea of what I can do to achieve this?
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• 3293[22:43:17] <Trel> it's for a docker instance only exposed to the machine intended to get into it so there's not a risk of anyoneelse doing so
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• 3298[22:46:47] <somiaj> Trel: you really think telnet is the best approach? why not ssh + a key for the user you don't want to have to authenticate?
• 3299[22:47:07] <somiaj> its been so long since I've dealt with telnet, unsure how to get it to avoid authentication and go directly to a shell.
• 3300[22:47:33] <tw> I'm tempted to answer that, but it's a bad idea <.<
• 3301[22:47:42] <tw> doesn't docker have attach for just this purpose?
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• 3315[22:59:06] <Trel> somiaj: because I explicitly do not want a key, or password
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• 3319[23:00:35] <Trel> I'm open to options other than telnet, but I need to be able to send commands from one server to this one with absolutely zero authenciation
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• 3324[23:00:59] <Trel> If there's another (better) way to do that, I'm very open to it
• 3325[23:01:42] <Trel> Remember, it's debian docker container, so I'm not worried about anyone else getting in.
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• 3330[23:03:00] <Trel> But yeah, I figured telnet would be the 'cheapest' option, but I'm having no luck getting it to work, so I'm open to pretty much anything as long as its lightweight.
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• 3335[23:04:30] <somiaj> I don't see why ssh with a key won't do what you want. It has the added feature of encryption, and once you set up the key (which isn't hard) will drop you directly into a shell or even let you run commands via ssh hostnae command
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• 3341[23:04:59] <somiaj> though if it is a docker container, attaching (equivlant of chrooting into it) maybe really what you want.
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• 3352[23:07:55] <Trel> somiaj: with a key means, I have to make sure the docker images contain the public and private key, every time I build it, and it also slows it down since it has to encrypt/decrypt
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• 3355[23:08:11] <Trel> Also the connection is coming from another container, so docker related commands aren't relevant
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• 3397[23:24:09] <Thedarkb-M90> What's a Linux alternative to RDP?
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• 3399[23:24:46] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: really depends on what you need. And what client you are using.
• 3400[23:24:58] <wigums> vnc
• 3401[23:25:21] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: there is xrdp if you just want to use that. Many just use ssh -X, as wigums said vnc, spice is a bit nicer than vnc for some things.
• 3402[23:26:36] <Thedarkb-M90> Basically, I just want to run programs on my Xeon rig from my Pentium rig.
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• 3404[23:26:57] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: what os on both? Do you want to see the full gui enviorment, or just have the program (preferable) on your system.
• 3405[23:27:24] <Thedarkb-M90> Xeon rig is running Debian, Pentium M rig is running ubuntu+openbox+fbpanel
• 3406[23:27:35] <Thedarkb-M90> I call it fubuntu
• 3407[23:27:44] <vergilzen> throw your ssh key on the xeon for your pentium
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• 3409[23:28:05] <vergilzen> ssh -Y xeon -f kickbutt-x-program
• 3410[23:28:22] <wigums> when i boot at the grub screen i hit "e" to bring up grub but it boots right away before i can edit anything. my screen is black after boot but the system comes up and is useable in every way but the black screen. nomodeset makes sense at this point but it boots before i can do anything. so how do i set nomodeset?
• 3411[23:28:23] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: ssh -X othermachine command to run will run the command on the remote server, but put the gui visual in your current xorg enviorment.
• 3412[23:28:34] <Thedarkb-M90> That's cool, I'll use that.
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• 3415[23:29:04] <maxzor> A package (metronome) is asking apt libssl1.0.0 dependency, and errors while i have libssl 1.0.2 installed. Any workaround?
• 3416[23:29:12] <Thedarkb-M90> So, how do I set up a server on this thing?
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• 3418[23:29:31] <somiaj> maxzor: rebuild the package to correctly depend on libssl 1.0.2 would be the prefered method.
• 3419[23:29:40] <Thedarkb-M90> Also, the Xeon isn't in my Xeon rig yet.
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• 3421[23:29:51] <Thedarkb-M90> It's in the post office, I'm using an i3 as a poor substitute.
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• 3426[23:30:48] <somiaj> maxzor: the differences are small, you could say make a link from the libssl.so.1.0.0 to the libssl.so.1.0.2 libary and many programs can just use the link. Some are explicity dependint on 1.0.0 by reqring a version look up screen (in that case you need an older insecure version)
• 3427[23:30:54] <maxzor> somiaj cannot I just specify the dependency during apt install? I am miles away from knowing how to repackage
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• 3429[23:31:23] <somiaj> maxzor: no, as a dependency issue you probably hsouln'dt install that software as a package. You want to keep your dependecies clean.
• 3430[23:31:36] <somiaj> maxzor: there are ways to get around this (equivs) but you need to be careful about this if you want thigns to function.
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• 3433[23:32:59] <teatime> you can also install the old version, alongside your current version
• 3434[23:33:18] <somiaj> I guess the jessie version works and it is secure.
• 3435[23:33:18] <MaxLanar> Hello, I am struggling with cron. What do I need for that simple command to work 'pactl set-sink-volume 0 20%'. What I get now is 'Failed to get sink information: No such entity'.
• 3436[23:33:37] <somiaj> it is a pain, most software should work jsut fine with libssl1.0.2 instead of libssl1.0.0 and just needs to be rebuilt (which isn't that bad)
• 3437[23:33:47] <somiaj> but when using thrid party software, be careful.
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• 3440[23:34:19] <somiaj> MaxLanar: don't expect cron to have any enviorment setup, such as $PATH, use full paths to all binaries run.
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• 3442[23:34:55] <somiaj> MaxLanar: also don't exept it to have any pulse info setup, you will need to supply it all enviroment variables needed to acces pulse on your system.
• 3443[23:35:01] <maxzor> somehow yunohost needs jabber :< :)
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• 3446[23:36:31] <DexterF> hi
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• 3449[23:36:49] <nirakara> hi guys. just installed debian buster on a dell xps 9350. Chromium is crashing instantly when i start it. Here is the terminal output: replaced-url
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• 3451[23:37:18] <MaxLanar> somiaj: what is the way to supply env variables ? Nothing of the stuff I found on the web seems to work.
• 3452[23:37:51] <somiaj> MaxLanar: I don't know pulse, so I'm unsure what it would need, but in general VAR1=foo VAR2=foo2 /full/path/to/binary options
• 3453[23:38:13] <Thedarkb-M90> somiaj, How to I find my X40's key?
• 3454[23:38:19] <somiaj> MaxLanar: you just need a way to tell cron how to access pulseaudio, and as what user. cron just won't know your normal enviorment.
• 3455[23:38:38] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: what do you mean by key?
• 3456[23:39:38] <Thedarkb-M90> <vergilzen> throw your ssh key on the xeon for your pentium
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• 3458[23:39:48] <Thedarkb-M90> pinged the wrong person, sorry.
• 3459[23:39:51] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: you just create one if you don't have one.
• 3460[23:40:01] <MaxLanar> somiaj: I know that's what I need to do. I just don't how to do it :)
• 3461[23:40:01] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: this just makes it so you don't have to type in a password, it is optional.
• 3462[23:40:17] <Thedarkb-M90> I'm getting "connection refused" when I try to SSH into it.
• 3463[23:40:19] <nirakara> further, I have tried deleting my profile in ~/.config/chromium/Default -- this allows Chromium to open again, but when I start to install extensions, it crashes again.
• 3464[23:40:23] <mutante> nirakara: how about starting with "chromium-browser --disable-extensions"
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• 3468[23:40:36] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: do you have an ssh server installed and running on the server?
• 3469[23:40:40] <Thedarkb-M90> yeah.
• 3470[23:41:02] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: are you able to ssh to the server normally?
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• 3472[23:41:07] <Thedarkb-M90> ● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
• 3473[23:41:08] <Thedarkb-M90> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled; vendor preset: enab
• 3474[23:41:08] <Thedarkb-M90> Active: active (running) since Tue 2018-01-23 20:09:17 GMT; 2h 26min ago
• 3475[23:41:08] <Thedarkb-M90> Main PID: 598 (sshd)
• 3476[23:41:08] <Thedarkb-M90> CGroup: /system.slice/ssh.service
• 3477[23:41:08] <Thedarkb-M90> └─598 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
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• 3479[23:41:10] <nirakara> mutante: when I delete my profile and start it works, but does that mean I can't use uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger and HTTS Everywhere?
• 3480[23:41:16] <djp_> i have 1gb of ram on my notebook. should i allocate 1gb or 2gb to the swap partition?
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• 3483[23:41:37] <Thedarkb-M90> This channel has a low bar for what is or isn't a flood.
• 3484[23:41:41] <somiaj> djp_: really depends on your ussage, and if you want to use hibernation.
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• 3487[23:41:53] <mutante> nirakara: does it match replaced-url
• 3488[23:41:54] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: that is flood, more than 3 lines should be pasted at paste.debian.net
• 3489[23:41:58] <Thedarkb-M90> Anyway, I've never tried SSHing in on this machine before.
• 3490[23:42:07] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: anyways, can you ssh to it from other machines?
• 3491[23:42:09] <djp_> somiaj: so hibernation i'd need 2gb right?
• 3492[23:42:18] <Thedarkb-M90> Nope.
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• 3494[23:42:36] <Oksana> I am trying to upgrade my laptop from Windows XP to dual-boot with Linux. So, I installed 64bit KDE Jessie from a USB stick, and then went to upgrade it to Stretch. Couldn't find a way to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch via GUI (Apper or Synaptic), so had to edit text file and replace all "jessie"
• 3495[23:42:38] <somiaj> djp_: at least as much as ram, but 2gb isn't that much for a browser these days. It should be fine though.
• 3496[23:42:51] <Oksana> By that time, Apper stopped working (aka, it sees updates, it offers to install them, but at the last possible moment it refuses because my user doesn't have permission to do it, or something), so I have to use Synaptic. And yes, my user is in sudoers group.
• 3497[23:42:51] <Oksana> with "stretch".
• 3498[23:42:55] <djp_> somiaj: thanx
• 3499[23:43:09] <Oksana> When trying to upgrade with Synaptic, I see 1300+ upgrades, then glibc complains that kdm has to be restarted manually. First I refuse to upgrade glibc: it means that about 100 upgrades are installed, and about 1200+ upgrades are held back.
• 3500[23:43:29] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: there could be various things stoping remote machines from access the server on port 22 (The ssh port). Coudl be a firewall, network, routing, etc.
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• 3502[23:43:52] <Thedarkb-M90> It's just on the lan though.
• 3503[23:43:54] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: you need to start at the server, see if you can 'ssh localhost' on it, and then 'ssh outsideip' on the server, after that check firewalls and network rounting between the machines.
• 3504[23:43:56] <nirakara> mutante: yes, disabling extensions seems to work. but I can't imagine browsing without an adblocker and privacy extensions
• 3505[23:44:21] <Thedarkb-M90> Yeah, I can SSH into it from itself
• 3506[23:44:21] <somiaj> nirakara: update your extensions, reinstall them, maybe they are just corrupt (have you tried that)?
• 3507[23:44:53] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: on both local host and the outside ip.
• 3508[23:44:53] <memphisto> nirakara: try reading #1 post on replaced-url
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• 3510[23:45:04] <Oksana> Then, on next attempt, I want to agree to upgrade glibc, by restarting kdm manually. Which means that when glibc question pops up, I go to a tty2, and sudo service kdm stop. Which, predictably, means that GUI disappears. Even when I sudo service kdm start, synaptic is running in background, not
• 3511[23:45:05] <Oksana> accessible. So I sudo pkill synaptic.
• 3512[23:45:06] <Thedarkb-M90> not from outside IP.
• 3513[23:45:06] <nirakara> somiaj: I have deleted my entire profile; surely this is the same as deleting them? uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger and HTTS Everywhere are not "rare" extensions
• 3514[23:45:12] <somiaj> Thedarkb-M90: then it is a networking issue between the two machines, or you have something like fail2ban or denyhost installed blocking your connection.
• 3515[23:45:24] <Thedarkb-M90> I have neither of those.
• 3516[23:45:25] <somiaj> nirakara: so after you reinstall them it breaks again?
• 3517[23:45:45] <nirakara> somiaj: as soon as i try to reinstall them, the browser crashes but its not consistent. sometimes i can get ublock origin installed, and it crashes whilst installing privacy badger
• 3518[23:45:59] <somiaj> ,v chromium
• 3519[23:46:00] <mutante> install just one at a time. find out which one actually breaks it
• 3520[23:46:00] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; buster: 62.0.3202.89-1; stretch-proposed-updates: 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1; sid: 63.0.3239.84-1
• 3521[23:46:08] <mutante> eh. ok
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• 3523[23:46:20] <nirakara> somiaj: indeed, but this whole thing seems to have been triggered by attempting to use the cast function in chromium
• 3524[23:46:32] <somiaj> nirakara: the version of chromium in buster is a bit outdated and might have insecure issues. Unsure if using the sid package would help you or not.
• 3525[23:46:38] <nirakara> mutante: will do. now it seems ublock, will check privacy badger first
• 3526[23:47:05] <nirakara> somiaj: i want to run relatively cutting edge but stable packages. is buster the right thing for me?
• 3527[23:47:17] <mutante> there is also Brave browser, it's based on Chrome and has HTTPSEverywhere and Anti-Tracking/AdBlocker by default / bundle
• 3528[23:47:20] <somiaj> nirakara: buster can be a wild ride, though for most it works.
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• 3530[23:47:36] <nirakara> mutante: brave allows ads in >_< but yeah good enough for testing i suppose
• 3531[23:47:42] <mutante> cutting edge and stable are mutually exclusive
• 3532[23:47:55] <nirakara> whats the difference between testing and stable
• 3533[23:48:03] <somiaj> nirakara: stable + backports is most likely sufficent for most peoples needs. Newer version in linux aren't as drastic as they were in times past, and debian now provides backports for the most common things people need newer versions of.
• 3534[23:48:09] <nirakara> i read a nuance around...speed of updates?
• 3535[23:48:43] <somiaj> nirakara: stable is a frozen system ehat gets only security and grave bug fixes. As such it runs well and everything is known to work together.
• 3536[23:48:47] <nirakara> somiaj: so i should move to stretch? can i do that in buster by just changing /etc/apt/sources.list?
• 3537[23:48:56] <rant> nirakara: testing is a moving target where stable is frozen and only gets grave and security fixes
• 3538[23:49:05] <nirakara> i chose testing because i heard google is choosing testing :D
• 3539[23:49:08] <Oksana> When I start Synaptic again, it asks for dpkg -a --configure, which I do in tty2. When I start Synaptic again, it has broken packages, which I fix by reinstalling them. When there are no broken packages anymore, I request upgrade again. 1200+ updates, and strangely enough, glibc doesn't request
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• 3541[23:49:19] <rant> somiaj: you can't just go backwards due to the nature of the package system. you'd need to reinstall
• 3542[23:49:21] <somiaj> nirakara: backports allow you to get certain packages that are newer from debian. These packages don't have the testing/stablity or secuirty support the main stable packages do. But in general one should only use a few of these and they work just fine.
• 3543[23:49:32] <rant> nirakara: you can't just go backwards due to the nature of the package system. you'd need to reinstall
• 3544[23:49:37] <rant> somiaj: sorry :P
• 3545[23:49:41] <somiaj> nirakara: as rant tried to say, scripts are only designed to upgrade, reinstall is needed.
• 3546[23:49:48] <nirakara> so testing is not recommended as a daily driver?
• 3547[23:49:59] <nirakara> not for a server
• 3548[23:50:03] <mutante> i always have testing on my laptop and use chrome and it doesnt crash
• 3549[23:50:04] <nirakara> just a dev laptop
• 3550[23:50:10] <mutante> chromium, sorry
• 3551[23:50:12] <setuid> Is there a tool that will re-rationalize a set of package requests, into the smallest subset/meta package for an install? IOW, if I do "apt-get install xorg xfce-blah xfce-blort xfce-something-else", that can be rationalized into 'apt-get install xfce4-desktop' or something?
• 3552[23:50:22] <nirakara> mutane are you using ublock origin?
• 3553[23:50:26] <somiaj> nirakara: testing is the final step of the develoment branch, so it gets slow securty updates, packages can be broken, but they have a buffer of sid so they aren't as broken as sid (unstable).
• 3554[23:50:28] <teatime> Oksana: You should just be switching to a console and doing that upgrade with apt/apt-get/aptitude, instead of synaptic.
• 3555[23:50:29] <mutante> wait, i lied. don't listen to me, im stretch right now
• 3556[23:50:49] <rant> nirakara: testing/unstable is not recommended for normal daily or production use, no.. but for a desktop if you are an experienced user who knows how to manage it.. it can be used that way.. though its still not what we'd recommend as we only support stable here
• 3557[23:51:09] <Oksana> manual restart of kdm anymore (may or may not be related to glibc-bin asking about automatic restart of things and my positive reply).
• 3558[23:51:15] <somiaj> nirakara: you can check bug reports, you can see if the sid version fixes your problem. But stuff like this isn't uncommon in testing, and you may have to deal with other issues in teh future.
• 3559[23:51:27] <nirakara> wow. i wonder why Google chose testing for their distro
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• 3561[23:51:40] <mutante> Google?
• 3562[23:51:43] <nirakara> i guess they have "google level" resources too
• 3563[23:52:31] <rant> nirakara: well I din't know google had a distro.. but as you say if you have experienced team with resources they can help iron out a moving distro and make more stable and rapid releases of it.
• 3564[23:52:35] <somiaj> nirakara: testing isn't to bad for a user who wantes a moving target to keep more up to date, but it requires knowledge of both how debian works, and the software being used. If you want a well tested enviroment that wont' change and things are known to work well together. Use stable.
• 3565[23:52:58] <mutante> the more servers you have the smaller becomes the problem if one or a few of them crash every once in a while
• 3566[23:53:14] <nirakara> i run stable on my servers 100%
• 3567[23:53:16] <somiaj> nirakara: it isn't uncommon for thrid party (such as google) to take testing as a starting point to build their own distro. But they do test, fix and modify packages. based on debian distro's that use testing are using a 'modified testing'
• 3568[23:53:46] <nirakara> damn, it took me so long to set this system up
• 3569[23:53:55] <nirakara> is there no way to go buster --> stretch
• 3570[23:53:59] <somiaj> nope
• 3571[23:54:04] <Thedarkb-M90> Got it working.
• 3572[23:54:12] <somiaj> you can continue to run buster, you may just have to deal with issues like this and lack of secuirty
• 3573[23:54:12] <rant> nirakara: for me these sorts of discussions all come down to your priorities. I'm a debian user that uses stable because I agree totally with our Social Contract and Why Debian documents, the freedom, stability, community, those things mean more to me than anything else. You'd have to decide for yourself if thats true for you. Using our testing/unstable branch limits your stability and your community
• 3574[23:54:18] <Thedarkb-M90> Had the wrong IP.
• 3575[23:54:18] <rant> support, and using dirivitives does so even more
• 3576[23:54:36] <somiaj> nirakara: if you notice, the version of chromium you have is outdated and contains secirty issues that are fixed in both stable and sid.
• 3577[23:54:45] <nirakara> somiaj: lack of security is a no-no!
• 3578[23:55:00] <nirakara> ok, is there a way to get a list of installed packages and install them again when i install stretch
• 3579[23:55:08] <somiaj> nirakara: if you are okay with that, and okay with fixign things as they break, then testing maybe for you. If you want secuirty and stablity (at the cost of older packages that won't change) use stable.
• 3580[23:55:12] <somiaj> !aptitude clone
• 3581[23:55:13] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
• 3582[23:55:15] <rant> nirakara: yes dpkg --get-selections > selections
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• 3584[23:55:35] <somiaj> though the package lists are different, don't try to use this list to driectly install on stretch, you'll cause problems.
• 3585[23:55:36] <rant> well the aptitude method works too :P
• 3586[23:56:07] <nirakara> somiaj: so i would need to go through it and edit package names? or is there a better way?
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• 3588[23:57:16] <somiaj> nirakara: most of the packages are auto installed anyways, I would just focus on the names of the main software packages you use.
• 3589[23:57:35] <linuxthefish> hi, why does cinnamon always freeze for ages when I change the brightness on my laptop? also I can't use the keyboard until I press the menu in the bottom left and type something!
• 3590[23:57:46] <nirakara> somiaj: right. thanks
• 3591[23:57:49] <somiaj> nirakara: you could go through and edit the package names that are in the list and not in stretch if you wanted to be more automatic, but I would jsut reinstall the packages I needed.
• 3592[23:58:09] <linuxthefish> with xfce or in console I don't have this issue, it's just cinnamon-settings-daemon!
• 3593[23:58:12] <rant> nirakara: somiaj in that respect aptitude also keeps track of auto-installed and you could just make a list of only those packages marked manual
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• 3595[23:59:51] <rant> it used to be that sort of data only existed if you used aptitude for installing but now I think all our package utilites use centralized logs and dbs.. but I've not experimented much with them in recent years
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