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0 [00:00:22] <smhar> jmcnaught, but why does apachectl -S shows
one vhost only?
1 [00:00:35] <format_c> smhar, what's the result of the
procedure described above?
2 [00:00:43] <n3tcat> jmcnaught: Im new to debian, but not to
gnu/linux, thank you anyway.
3 [00:01:12] <smhar> format_c, jmcnaught: ls -lh
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled shows: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32
Jul 30 23:45 test.com.conf -> ../sites-available/test.com.conf
4 [00:01:40] <format_c> smhar, I assume you're restarted
apache2 in the meantime?
5 [00:01:57] <jmcnaught> smhar: *only* the files in
sites-enabled are used. a2ensite/a2dissite manages symlinks from the
sites-enabled to the sites-available directory.
6 [00:02:27] <smhar> format_c, jmcnaught: I did systemctl
reload apache2 several times
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8 [00:03:04] <jmcnaught> smhar: if you *want* 000-default.conf
to be active you need to "a2ensite 000-default ; systemctl
reload apache2"
9 [00:03:11] <format_c> What's the output of apachectl -S?
10 [00:03:33] <format_c> BTW, I've never used the apache*
commands.
11 [00:03:49] <smhar>
replaced-url
12 [00:03:52] <DoctorD90> jmcnaught solved! at 3rd installation
I choose grub for buggy efi :D and it works! :D victory!
13 [00:04:01] <format_c> But just checked the output on a
reference installation with some namevhosts
14 [00:04:32] <jmcnaught> smhar: you should read
/usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz for an explanation of apache
configuration on Debian (it's organized differently from
upstream)
15 [00:04:41] <jmcnaught> DoctorD90: hurray!
16 [00:04:43] <format_c> smhar, it shows one.
17 [00:04:45] <smhar> format_c, me too, this is my first time
installing it and I am overwhelmed
18 [00:04:53] <format_c> Line 2
19 [00:05:05] <format_c> You've only one namedvirtualhost
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22 [00:05:54] <DoctorD90> jmcnaught yessa :D issue is that in
all this "making" I wronged to install system on wrong hdd
xD btw, now that I solved, I can install it on any hdd I want :D thx
you all and hurray! :D
23 [00:06:04] <smhar> format_c, I've noticed that.. and I
am not sure why.. I followed all the steps in this guide:
replaced-url
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25 [00:06:30] <|subz3r0|> hi
26 [00:06:30] <format_c> smhar, again, have you tried what I
said before with the /etc/hosts entry?
27 [00:06:40] <|subz3r0|> what's the replacement of
net-tools?
28 [00:06:51] <|subz3r0|> since netstat for example is not
installed anymore in a basic debian 9
29 [00:07:16] <format_c> |subz3r0|, wow that's hard.
30 [00:07:38] <smhar> format_c, no.. not yet.. because as
apachectl -S shows.. the problem is: that I still do NOT have
multiple vhosts enabled
31 [00:07:57] <jmcnaught> smhar: are you ignoring me or
something?
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33 [00:08:00] <format_c> You have only one in the sites-enabled
directory
34 [00:08:08] <format_c> this one is shown in the output
35 [00:08:14] <format_c> everything is as it should be
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37 [00:08:26] <format_c> create more named virutal hosts and
they will be listed
38 [00:08:29] <|subz3r0|> format_c: so?
39 [00:08:58] <format_c> |subz3r0|, I'd suggest: aptitude
install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file
search netstat
40 [00:09:07] <|subz3r0|> are you kidding me?
41 [00:09:07] <jmcnaught> |subz3r0|: you're looking for
iproute2
replaced-url
42 [00:09:38] <|subz3r0|> jmcnaught: i'll give that a shot.
thanks
43 [00:10:03] <|subz3r0|> jmcnaught: can i rebuild my filters
lile -tulpen with it ?
44 [00:10:06] <|subz3r0|> like
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48 [00:11:30] <jmcnaught> |subz3r0|: there's a table in the
link I shared with you to show replacement commands. ss is probably
what you want. You can also just install net-tools and continue to
use netstat
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51 [00:13:18] <smhar> format_c, jmcnaught: I added another vhost
and enabled it.. now I have 2 vhosts: this is my apachectl -S :
replaced-url
52 [00:14:06] <|subz3r0|> jmcnaught: but this is really basic
53 [00:14:10] <|subz3r0|> ahh, its "ss"
54 [00:14:17] <|subz3r0|> looks quite ugly
55 [00:14:26] <|subz3r0|> but i guess i have to get used to
it... :/
56 [00:14:29] <smhar> but I am wondering why apachectl -S still
shows that Main DocumentRoot: "/var/replaced-url
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60 [00:17:24] <format_c> smhar, yes it's still the default
DocumentRoot (if the Hostname Header doesn't match any
ServerName or ServerAlias directives of the available Virtual
Hosts).
61 [00:17:35] <format_c> You still have only one Vhost
configured
62 [00:17:50] <format_c> the DocumentRoot isn't displayed
for the virtualhosts
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65 [00:19:53] <smhar> format_c, but the /var/replaced-url
66 [00:20:25] <smhar> format_c, /var/replaced-url
67 [00:20:26] <format_c> grep DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/* -R
68 [00:20:35] <Lyberta> hi, when doing apt-get update I get
"The following signatures couldn't be verified because the
public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553", help?
69 [00:20:37] <format_c> It may be defined somewhere else
70 [00:21:04] <smhar> format_c,
replaced-url
71 [00:21:24] <smhar> it is there in the ssl file
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73 [00:22:12] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: you need to update the keys
74 [00:22:24] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: gpg --keyserver
pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 8B48AD6246925553
75 [00:22:32] <format_c> On my system, I've no
configuration file defining it. But apachectl -S still shows it.
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77 [00:22:46] <format_c> Seem to be a hard-coded default value
78 [00:22:49] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: gpg -a --export
8B48AD6246925553 | sudo apt-key add -
79 [00:22:54] <format_c> Don't bother too much about it.
80 [00:22:58] <|subz3r0|> then apt-get update && apt-get
upgrade
81 [00:23:00] <|subz3r0|> should fix it
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83 [00:23:23] <|subz3r0|> anyone of you uses now ss instead of
netstat?
84 [00:23:27] <Lyberta> |subz3r0|, as root?
85 [00:23:32] <|subz3r0|> actually im quite unhappy with is
86 [00:24:01] <|subz3r0|> it show me only for example
443/https... but not that its apache or nginx or what ever... this
is bul...?!
87 [00:24:04] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: yes
88 [00:24:31] <|subz3r0|> but the parts where u need it are with
sudo
89 [00:24:40] <|subz3r0|> so the commands should for ootb
90 [00:24:44] <jmcnaught> |subz3r0|: ss has a --process, -p did
you find the man page?
91 [00:24:57] <|subz3r0|> jmcnaught: already did that
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93 [00:25:17] <smhar> so how to change the DocumentRoot and make
sure I have my vhosts enabled and seen?
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95 [00:26:22] <format_c> I think the "Main
DocumentRoot" cannot be changed.
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98 [00:26:57] <jelly> |subz3r0|, one shouldn't just blindly
add keys to apt
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102 [00:27:17] <jelly> Lyberta, which debian release are you
supposed to be running?
103 [00:27:26] <format_c> You create your vhosts, matching the
hostnames as they actually resolve and you're done.
104 [00:27:32] <|subz3r0|> jelly: indeed
105 [00:27:42] <Lyberta> jelly, testing
106 [00:27:44] <format_c> Forget about the Main DocuementRoot
shown by apachectl -S
107 [00:28:17] <jelly> Lyberta, pastebin the output of "dpkg
-l libc6 dpkg apt debian-archive-keyring"
108 [00:28:28] <jelly> !paste
109 [00:28:28] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
110 [00:28:42] <|subz3r0|> jelly: but he asked for help, not an
explanation ;)
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115 [00:30:10] <jelly> |subz3r0|, most people here do. It's
on you as a volunteer helper to provide said explanation, and is
possible avoid pointing someone to bad practive
116 [00:30:14] <jelly> practice*
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119 [00:30:33] <Lyberta> |subz3r0|, I would love the explanation,
I don't want to add random keys
120 [00:30:39] <jelly> the right thing to do, on Debian, is to
just install an updated version of debian-archive-keyring
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122 [00:30:47] <Lyberta> jelly,
replaced-url
123 [00:31:03] <jelly> but that one is already rather old, so
looking at the state of their system first
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125 [00:31:28] <jelly> Lyberta, and "apt-cache policy",
too
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127 [00:31:54] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: on an actual system this
should not happen. This only happens when the key got renewed. since
those packetes are signed with the key
128 [00:31:56] <jelly> ,v libc6
129 [00:31:57] <judd> Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie:
2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch:
2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; sid: 2.24-12;
buster: 2.24-12
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131 [00:32:57] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: this is meant to prevent that
any bad packets will be installed on your system which were not
signed by the maintainers
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136 [00:33:32] <|subz3r0|> but like said.. this should not happen
with a fresh testing release normaly
137 [00:33:36] <Lyberta> jelly,
replaced-url
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140 [00:34:27] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: you installed a ppa?
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143 [00:35:39] <Lyberta> |subz3r0|, it was installed via a
package
144 [00:35:58] <jelly> Lyberta, why are you using testing and not
"buster"?
145 [00:36:17] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: what package? i guess not.
not from the repos
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147 [00:36:40] <Lyberta> jelly, so that I don't need to
rename it each release
148 [00:36:41] <|subz3r0|> this ppa crap should not be there.
like
replaced-url
149 [00:37:00] <jelly> Lyberta, how did you like the switch to
buster, did things break a lot
150 [00:37:37] <|subz3r0|> i would rather recommend compiling
stuff your own as to install ppas
151 [00:37:41] <Lyberta> jelly, I didn't notice anything bad
except this key thing
152 [00:37:43] <jelly> I'm... not sure why you're
suddenly missing that key. Could be new apt.
153 [00:37:45] <Lyberta> this system runs testing for 3 years now
154 [00:37:50] <jelly> !debian-next
155 [00:37:50] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
156 [00:38:07] <jelly> ^^ the right place to ask questions about
testing and/or unstable
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158 [00:38:45] <Lyberta> |subz3r0|, that would add tons of
development packages that I don't really need
159 [00:38:46] <jelly> but then again you do seem to have
up-to-date debian-archive-keyring. Who knows.
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162 [00:39:05] <jelly> ask in #debian-next
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165 [00:39:23] <jelly> and maybe read the changelog for package
"apt"
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167 [00:39:58] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: build-essential is not tons
of dev packages...
168 [00:40:14] <|subz3r0|> Lyberta: and you can remove it
afterwards...
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172 [00:40:24] <|subz3r0|> and or use git
173 [00:40:29] <jelly> Lyberta, since you're on testing, it
would be good to install apt-listchanges and at the very least read
NEWS before installing stuff. Things can change under your feet with
testing.
174 [00:40:46] <jelly> |subz3r0|, if you want to help them, do it
in #debian-next (on OFTC)
175 [00:40:47] <Lyberta> |subz3r0|, apps usually require tons of
development packages for file formats, codecs, gui toolkits, etc
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178 [00:41:18] <|subz3r0|> jelly: any recommendations for
installing automaticaly security updates on debian?
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180 [00:41:47] <jelly> I'd rather avoid seeing answers and
advice pertinent for testing in here, lest users of stable get
confused
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182 [00:41:56] <Lyberta> jelly, I do have it installed and I
didn't see anything interesting with apt
183 [00:42:03] <|subz3r0|> "unattended-upgrades
apt-listchanges" or any other prefered way?
184 [00:42:35] <mxh-> where are testing/sid discussions to be
held?
185 [00:43:00] <|subz3r0|> !debian-next
186 [00:43:00] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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188 [00:43:57] <|subz3r0|> who owns that bot?
189 [00:44:08] <|subz3r0|> last sentence makes no sense to me
190 [00:44:18] <|subz3r0|> "... it means you did not read
it's on irc.oftc.net"
191 [00:44:21] <|subz3r0|> it's what?
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194 [00:44:58] <|subz3r0|> disclaimer? bunny magazine? :D
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196 [00:45:12] <jmcnaught> "… it means *that* you did
not read *that* it's on irc.oftc.net"
197 [00:45:46] <|subz3r0|> but its mentioned before :D lol
198 [00:45:54] <fxb> correct but confusing imho
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203 [00:46:26] <jmcnaught> it's because way too many people
get told to go there, then come and tell us the channel is invite
only
204 [00:46:41] <|subz3r0|> ;D
205 [00:46:49] <Lyberta> I'm pretty sure most users will
type /join #debian-next after reading the bot, I'm sure I did
the first time
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207 [00:49:39] <jelly> |subz3r0|, feel free to provide better
wording.
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210 [00:50:07] <fxb> it should say "If you get "Cannot
join #debian-next (...)." you didn't read the message
stating that the channel is on irc.oftc.net", or something
211 [00:50:34] <__Ozy__> Does anyone know if there is a
respository that contains the dbgsym files for packages updated by
debian-security through stretch/updates?
212 [00:51:03] <fxb> or just replace "it means" with
"then" imo
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333 [01:56:55] <dgriffi> why am I coming up with 404 errors when
I go looking for a DVD multi-arch iso?
334 [01:57:08] <dgriffi> is there supposed to be a DVD
multi-arch?
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382 [02:32:48] <veek> Waiting for printer to become available USB
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451 [03:13:16] <themill> dgriffi: I have a vague memory of them
not being generated for 9.1 but I can't find the reference any
more. Any particular reason you want the dual-arch installer? (Do
you really make i386 installations these days?)
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459 [03:17:47] <dgriffi> themill: I have a lenovo L420 that MUST
be used
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461 [03:18:39] <dgriffi> themill: it belongs to my
girlfriend's mother (who was weaned off Windows a few years
ago)
462 [03:18:43] <themill> I assume by now you've downloaded
the i386 installer for that machine
463 [03:19:36] <dgriffi> working on it and trying to figure out
exactly what nonfree firmware packages I need... which the CD
multiarch isn't finding.
464 [03:19:51] <dgriffi> that is... it can't seem to see the
flash drive
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467 [03:20:25] <dgriffi> and it doesn't seem that using a
multiarch CD image on a flash drive works
468 [03:20:43] <themill> should do. how did you copy it?
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474 [03:23:43] <dgriffi> mount the flash drive and copy
firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-3_all.deb on over
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477 [03:24:58] <themill> how did you copy the installer on?
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483 [03:28:10] <dgriffi> themill: I followed this to get a
writable bootable flash drive:
replaced-url
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486 [03:29:17] <themill> I'm wanting to know what you did so
if there's a problem with it I can help
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511 [03:42:26] <MarioMey> Hello, there.
512 [03:43:02] <MarioMey> Yesterday, I entered here because I had
some deleted files that were still there after deleting them: there
were system log files.
513 [03:43:32] <MarioMey> Finally, I had to reboot (after a movie
was downloaded from web).
514 [03:43:56] <MarioMey> Now, I would like to solve this
issue... huge log files.
515 [03:44:26] <MarioMey> Right now, I have 3 files: kern.log,
messages and syslog. 5GB each.
516 [03:45:50] <MarioMey> I have this SO (Debian 9) installed in
a 25GB partition. It is enough for a linux SO... but not for a SO
that makes these log files.
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519 [03:49:33] <abrotman> MarioMey: so rotate the logs
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541 [04:05:23] <MarioMey> abrotman: I had read this page:
replaced-url
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546 [04:07:53] <MarioMey> I have /etc/cron.daily/logrotate that
execute "/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf"
547 [04:08:02] <MarioMey> /etc/logratate.conf says:
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549 [04:08:43] <MarioMey> daily, rotate 1, create, compress...
and some other stuff (I didn't touch them)
550 [04:08:49] <MarioMey> But I create another cron:
551 [04:09:21] <MarioMey> /etc/cron.hourly/logrotate that execute
"/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.hourly.conf"
552 [04:09:25] <MarioMey> This file says:
553 [04:09:50] <MarioMey> hourly... and the other options are the
same.
554 [04:10:11] <MarioMey> Now, I have a doubt... if I want a
hourly cron... should I remove daily cron?
555 [04:10:29] <MarioMey> For me, I wouldn't have log
files...
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557 [04:10:47] <MarioMey> Not right now. This is my computer, not
a server...
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561 [04:11:49] <sc_> huh
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578 [04:26:48] <gravmaga> bonjour
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639 [05:13:24] <Hyp3ri0n> what is the command to find out which
program is using a connection?
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646 [05:19:37] <jmcnaught> OtakuSenpai: ss
647 [05:20:40] <OtakuSenpai> jmcnaught: ?
648 [05:21:19] <mxh-> it's the command.
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682 [05:46:14] <emj2> �DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
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684 [05:46:27] <stree> you send me a renewed outlook on the net
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702 [05:58:48] <ZIPY> hi, i have a lvm encrypted root and boot
partition, when i booted i was asked to unlock the encrypted
partition which doesnt prompt anymore
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752 [06:50:15] <ofaq> what is the default DE in stretch?
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763 [06:57:42] <mxh-> ofaq: gnome i guess but you can pick when
you download
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766 [06:58:53] <N0rthlight> ?
767 [06:58:59] <N0rthlight> Misstell.
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810 [07:27:11] <badargo> hey i installed this package but cant
find the readme file or where its installed, do u guys how to fidn
that?
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812 [07:28:54] <petn-randall> badargo: dpkg -L
<packagename>
813 [07:29:08] <badargo> thanks!
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822 [07:37:31] <pierrot> I have a huge .mkv file (12,3 GB) in a
server. I want to download it to my laptop. My IP changes every 12
hours so I need to find a way to transfer it in less than that time.
What's the easiest way to do it?
823 [07:37:38] <pierrot> Both sides run Debian
824 [07:38:17] <tx> compress it into part files
825 [07:38:43] <pierrot> My local Internet service is not good
(2,5 Mbps)
826 [07:38:47] <tx> or maybe don't even compress, use the
split command
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828 [07:38:53] <tx> split -v [size] [file]
829 [07:38:59] <tx> where size = 500M or 2G or whatever.
830 [07:39:07] <SwedeMike> pierrot: use rar and create 50
megabyte files separately. Set compression to none, then it's
pretty quick to create.
831 [07:39:09] <tx> make sure you back up the file first.
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836 [07:42:11] <pierrot> tx, SwedeMike: Thanks for the
suggestions. I'll look information about those alternatives.
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843 [07:43:31] <pierrot> tx: once you divided the file into
pieces, how can you rebuild it into the original big piece?
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846 [07:44:05] <SwedeMike> pierrot: you can cat them together. I
would suggest to use rar though, it has CRC check so you know the
files are ok afterwards.
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848 [07:45:06] <pierrot> something like `cat piece1 piece2 ...
pieceN > bigpiece` ?
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851 [07:46:47] <jmcnaught> HTTP can resume downloads
852 [07:47:15] <tx> good servers*
853 [07:47:16] <tx> :P
854 [07:47:19] <Blendify_pi> Hi I just install debian but the
wifi driver could not loaded I see the message when booting but is
there a way to find this log so I can find the driver and install it
from a usb drive
855 [07:48:03] <nku> Blendify_pi: /var/log/messages
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860 [07:53:55] <badargo> petn-randall: dpkg -l show me the
filename the version, the architecture and description but not where
its installed or the read me file :S
861 [07:54:26] <badargo> i guess
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864 [07:56:17] <themill> badargo: -L not -l.
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873 [08:01:37] <xormor> what was the command to show executables
in an installed package?
874 [08:04:56] <xormor> dpkg -L shows whatever was installed from
the package to my system, the files.
875 [08:04:56] <dpkg> ii shows whatever was installed from the
package to my system, the files. 1.5-1.1 xormor's private warez
collection
876 [08:05:16] <badargo> themill: i tried dpkg -L and got some 6
directories. i listed one by one and found no readme.md file tho i
found 1.gz files...
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878 [08:06:16] <themill> badargo: what package are we talking
about?
879 [08:08:21] <badargo> themill: bucklesprings, it adds a
typewritter sound to keyboard :P
880 [08:09:31] * themill finds no such package
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883 [08:11:06] <badargo> bucklespring
884 [08:11:11] <badargo> sorry
885 [08:11:15] <badargo> singular :P
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887 [08:11:50] <badargo> theres a video about it here on youtube
888 [08:11:59] <badargo>
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889 [08:12:47] <themill> So why do you think there should be a
file called readme.md?
890 [08:13:13] <badargo> in this video this guy opened a read me
file with vi
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905 [08:22:19] <dARksku11> help
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908 [08:23:18] <towo^work> badargo, in this vidio, you see the
sources
909 [08:23:30] <towo^work> badargo, and in the sources, there is
a readme.md
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913 [08:25:35] <farmer> Hi what might I be doing wrong if PSAD
isnt detecting my nmap scan? I have gone through several Tutorials
enabled logging etc and still no go. Any tips?
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917 [08:26:38] <badargo> towo^work: i cant figure how he execute
the program and return to the prompt... if i ctrl + c the
typewritter sounds stop :(
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919 [08:27:29] <towo^work> add & after the command
920 [08:27:37] <veek> is there a way to print from 48 onwards in
gv/linux - postscript (mpage output doesn't open in
evince/okular)?
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923 [08:27:59] <kaimo>
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925 [08:28:30] <badargo> towo^work: didnt work... but now i
closed the tab where i started buckle process and the sound is still
going :D
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936 [08:33:18] <badargo> exit
937 [08:33:21] <badargo> ops :P
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953 [08:45:05] <darxmurf> hi all
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957 [08:48:21] <kaimo> hey
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970 [08:55:01] <dermoth> Hey there... for some time I've
been using the debian stable's netboot on my lan as an easy way
to do new installs or fix broken boots... however I've always
had to keep the following symlink for it to work:
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972 [08:55:07] <dermoth> ldlinux.c32 ->
debian-installer/amd64/boot-screens/ldlinux.c32
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976 [08:56:52] <dermoth> is there any reason it's needed? I
never really tried to figure it out; I just added it when I first
noticed the error from pxe boot
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988 [09:00:04] <Ormu> hi
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993 [09:01:17] <Ormu> what is the recommended way to mount an
NTFS partition in read-only mode? Use "ro" option in
fstab? Some seem to recommend setting the type as "ntfs"
(instead of "ntfs-3g" which allows read/write access while
ntfs does not)
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1001 [09:05:58] <BenNZ> Ormu: ntfs is a symlink to ntfs-3g anyway
, so use ro instead
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1004 [09:07:28] <Ormu> ok, thanks
1005 [09:07:29] <Haohmaru> symlinks
1006 [09:07:33] <Haohmaru> my life was a lie
1007 [09:07:37] <Ormu> :P
1008 [09:07:52] <Ormu> should have been hardlinks at least?
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1010 [09:11:00] <BenNZ> Ormu: /sbin/ntfs.mount points to
/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g which in turn points to /bin/mount.ntfs-3g
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1012 [09:11:57] <Haohmaru> such deceit
1013 [09:12:01] <Ormu> i see
1014 [09:12:23] <BenNZ> Ormu: oh and they are both symlinks
according to file
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1017 [09:13:08] <rudi_s> readlink -f
1018 [09:13:39] <Ormu> :o
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1051 [09:29:57] <badargo> if you input ps -a and cant find a
process that is currently running, what should u do?
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1054 [09:30:47] <Ormu> ps aux
1055 [09:30:49] <parenia> Try ps -e
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1057 [09:30:56] <badargo> thanks
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1059 [09:31:11] <Ormu> ps -e is a good option too, it provides a
cleaner output. ps aux shows the full commands
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1061 [09:33:03] <jelly> so does ps -fe
1062 [09:33:12] <jelly> aux is bsd syntax
1063 [09:33:34] <jelly> options with - are sysv syntax, newer
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1065 [09:33:58] <Ormu> :O
1066 [09:34:02] <Ormu> ok, interesting
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1074 [09:40:50] <Ormu> BenNZ: for the record,
isn't/wasn't there a native kernel driver for NTFS that
only provides read access? Is it deprecated?
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1077 [09:43:58] <parthiban> Hi, I have started a userspace
application using "start-stop-daemon" as non-root. using
the option "--chuid" in init.d startup script. I also
added "respawn-on" for the process.
1078 [09:44:04] <parthiban> If I kill the application process
which is started as non-root, it respawn's as root process. I
want this process to run as same user after respawn as well. How can
I do this?
1079 [09:44:56] <ksk> I dont know chuid, but you can write user
services for systemd.
1080 [09:45:11] <ksk> also, you can specifiy a user in a systemd
(non user) service unit
1081 [09:45:45] <ksk> systemd has many advantages, you should
think about using it instead of init.d stuff.
1082 [09:45:52] <ksk> @ parthiban
1083 [09:46:39] <parthiban> ksk: thanks. This is for old customer
target. It may not be possible for me to change to systemd from sysv
init.
1084 [09:47:32] <parthiban> Yes, i know systemd got lot of
advantages over sysv init
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1086 [09:47:49] <sbeex> hello pinguins :)
1087 [09:47:51] <parthiban> But I just to update the running user
for the one process.
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1090 [09:49:10] <parthiban> ksk: do you already some opinion on
running process as different user (non-root) after restart/kill?
1091 [09:50:08] <BenNZ> Ormu: sorry was afk , depreciated since
squeeze i think
1092 [09:50:10] <ksk> why do you care for "after restart/kill
1093 [09:50:22] <ksk> make your init.d script it uses $user always
to start service
1094 [09:50:27] <Ormu> BenNZ: ok, thanks :o
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1098 [09:50:59] <parthiban> Yeah. I did it already.
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1101 [09:51:38] <parthiban> But when the process is exited during
the course of work (may be because of bug), it needs to be started
again automatically.
1102 [09:52:19] <sbeex> Hi, I try to figure out what is not
working with my sonarqube installation. If I locally run w3m (text
web browser) I can see something at 121.0.0.1 but from another local
machine with I cannot access to it with 192.x.x.12 <-- the ip of
the machine.
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1104 [09:52:20] <parthiban> So I have enabled
"respawn-on" for that process. Which makes sure that the
process always runs even it exits with error.
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1108 [09:52:39] <stree> to do something useful locally and open a
text message from our previous discussions
1109 [09:53:03] <sbeex>
replaced-url
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1111 [09:53:23] <sbeex> my port 80 is open right ?
1112 [09:54:04] <parthiban> ksk: if the process killed or exited
abnormally, it's getting started again. But this time as
"root". Not as specified user in "--chuid"
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1166 [10:34:35] <rovonovo_zoro> Hi am having some issues with my
WiFi
1167 [10:34:35] <rovonovo_zoro> The signal strength is too low and
it won't connect
1168 [10:34:53] <rovonovo_zoro> RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network
Adapter
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1170 [10:35:24] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: but you see the network ssid
when scanning?
1171 [10:35:31] <rovonovo_zoro> yup
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1175 [10:38:31] <darxmurf> my colleague just ran aptitude upgrade
to move from 8.9 to stretch but it's stuck on "resolving
dependencies" is it something common ?
1176 [10:38:41] <darxmurf> I'm only using apt-get for that,
never aptitude
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1178 [10:39:08] <Ormu> i guess it may take long to resolve
thousands of dependencies
1179 [10:39:26] <darxmurf> never had this with apt
1180 [10:39:30] <darxmurf> apt-get
1181 [10:39:44] <Ormu> even in full system upgrade?
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1183 [10:39:47] <darxmurf> yep
1184 [10:40:02] <Ormu> I don't know then :|
1185 [10:40:35] <darxmurf> I found some old posts about this, guys
fixed the thing by removing and reinstalling aptitude :-/
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1189 [10:42:40] <Ormu> rovonovo_zoro: signal strength and quality
must be very low if the network can be detected but not at all
connected to. Just my 2cents.
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1192 [10:43:30] <Ormu> If possible, try in a location where the
signal is better to exclude other reasons for inability to connect.
1193 [10:43:36] <rovonovo_zoro> i can connect to the network now
but no internet access though
1194 [10:43:41] <Ormu> hm
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1196 [10:44:17] <rovonovo_zoro> am just near to the modem the
signal should be 100 %
1197 [10:44:28] <Ormu> what is the reported signal strength?
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1200 [10:45:15] <rovonovo_zoro> how do i look that ?
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1202 [10:45:57] <Ormu> the network connection app might show it,
or have a graphical meter. Anyway, if you are next to the wifi
station, the problem is most likely not related to signal strength.
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1206 [10:47:57] <rovonovo_zoro> k
1207 [10:47:58] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: sudo iwconfig and check link
qualiy and signal level
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1212 [10:50:49] <rovonovo_zoro>
replaced-url
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1218 [10:54:31] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: very weird, that's
almost identical to mine and i have excellent connection.
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1220 [10:54:48] <rovonovo_zoro> ah
1221 [10:55:02] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: other machines have good
speed on the same gateway?
1222 [10:55:09] <rovonovo_zoro> yeah
1223 [10:55:15] <mxh-> :/
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1236 [10:58:53] <Ormu> the the problem might be caused by
something else... try ping google.com and if that doesn't work,
ping 8.8.4.4 (that's google's DNS server IP)
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1238 [11:00:15] <rovonovo_zoro> tried ping too ,no good
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1242 [11:01:20] <rovonovo_zoro> i feel the signal strenth is low
if i move away it auto disconnects
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1245 [11:01:55] <rovonovo_zoro> strange have internet acess now
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1251 [11:04:10] <Ormu> note to self: dmesg requires privileges in
stretch
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1254 [11:04:56] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: you have good bitrate and
decent signal quality, i can only suspect interference but im no
expert
1255 [11:05:12] <rovonovo_zoro> ok
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1259 [11:06:23] <woenxs> Hey
1260 [11:06:37] <woenxs> Is it possible to see the output of a
running cron job?
1261 [11:06:45] <woenxs> that is running right now
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1274 [11:09:05] <mxh-> rovonovo_zoro: long shot but sudo iwlist
<interface-name> scanning | grep Channel
1275 [11:09:17] <mxh-> if there are a ton on your channel i'd
try switching
1276 [11:09:29] <Ormu> :o
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1279 [11:09:56] <Ormu> good to know that method
1280 [11:10:07] <Ormu> i've only used Kismet for that :P
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1292 [11:14:16] <mxh-> Ormu: even better if you use nmcli - nmcli
device wifi list
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1294 [11:14:31] <mxh-> shows all APs, their channels, rates and
signal strength
1295 [11:14:35] <fourhundred> in Jessie, there is no mplayer
package
1296 [11:14:40] <fourhundred> instead, there is mplayer2
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1299 [11:14:57] <Ormu> :o
1300 [11:14:58] <fourhundred> what happened to original mplayer ?
1301 [11:15:26] <Haohmaru> it was murdered with multiple fork
stabs
1302 [11:15:32] * Haohmaru is kidding
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1306 [11:16:19] <fourhundred> yeah, mplayer2 seems to be a fork of
mplayer
1307 [11:16:21] <rovonovo_zoro>
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1308 [11:16:45] <fourhundred> but when I installit, it behaves
like mplayer
1309 [11:16:48] <Ormu> so many media players :|
1310 [11:16:55] <fourhundred> and even lives in /usr/bin/mplayer
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1312 [11:17:00] <fourhundred> so I am confused
1313 [11:17:14] <Haohmaru> linux is confusing
1314 [11:17:20] <mxh-> its a fork. but why not go for mpv? fast,
plays anything
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1316 [11:17:49] <fourhundred> mpv is yet another form of mplayer /
1317 [11:17:51] <Haohmaru> isn't mpv also a fork of something
too
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1319 [11:18:10] <Haohmaru> NOTHING IS PUREBLOODED ;P~
1320 [11:18:18] <Ormu> vlc
1321 [11:18:20] <Ormu> :P
1322 [11:18:23] <mxh-> that i don't know but mpv will play
anything :P youtube link? no problem
1323 [11:18:37] <Ormu> Real(tm) video?
1324 [11:18:52] <Haohmaru> i want Fake video
1325 [11:19:00] <Ormu> obscure WMV versions?
1326 [11:19:05] <mxh-> "anything" might be a lie, dont
think it does wmv drm bs
1327 [11:19:06] <stree> google play wmv in iceweasel
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1329 [11:21:01] <bielewelt> On Friday I mentioned that
virtualbox-dkms cannot build vboxdrv on Debian testing. I was asked
if the issue is present in sid as well, which I can now confirm. It
says: “Module build for kernel 4.11.0-2-amd64 was skipped
since the kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be
installed.” In fact, linux-headers-4.11.0-1-amd64 is installed
but linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 is unavailable at this time. How
can I get VirtualBox worki
1330 [11:21:02] <bielewelt> ng again?
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1332 [11:21:23] <Haohmaru> in my experience vlc has the tendancy
to hang and fills the resources quickly
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1341 [11:25:28] <carmelo11> Hi guys
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1351 [11:28:49] <mxh-> carmelo11: o/
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1355 [11:30:28] <bielewelt> Does it make sense to file a bug for
virtualbox, or do I simply have to wait for
linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 to become available?
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1360 [11:32:02] <carmelo11> I have installed from scratch debian
9.1, I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 and I have installed
firmware-amd-graphics
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1364 [11:33:13] <carmelo11> This morning I got a kind of freeze on
the screen, that's what I found
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1368 [11:36:24] <towo^work> bielewelt, a bug against vbox would be
wrong
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1373 [11:37:32] <mxh-> bielewelt: do you have the same version of
source and headers? if not "sudo apt-get install
linux-headers-`uname -r`" then "dpkg-reconfigure
virtualbox-dkms"
1374 [11:37:45] <mxh-> uh maybe "dpkg-reconfigure
virtualbox" also
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1376 [11:38:10] <towo^work> mxh-, would not help, since the 4.11
headers are not installable
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1379 [11:38:15] <towo^work> in testing
1380 [11:38:16] <Aebian> I have extended a disk from 5GB to 20GB
but even after restart its still saying that /dev/sdb/ has 5G.
I'm sure I need to extend that disk somehow, but how?
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1382 [11:38:56] <towo^work> Aebian, if you speak about a
partition, you have to resize the filesystem also
1383 [11:38:59] <mxh-> I missed testing, sorry.
1384 [11:39:06] <Aebian> I don't want to delete stuff just
add the 15GB to the disk
1385 [11:39:32] <towo^work> how you can extend a disk?
1386 [11:39:33] <Aebian> its just mounted on /db/ for database
files
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1389 [11:39:46] <Aebian> so no system disk
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1392 [11:40:33] <carmelo11> Do you need to open a bug report?
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1395 [11:42:20] <bielewelt> mxh-: I already tried what you advise,
and the result is this: The following packages have unmet
dependencies:
1396 [11:42:20] <bielewelt> linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 :
Depends: linux-headers-4.11.0-2-common (= 4.11.11-1+b1) but
4.11.11-1 is to be installed
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1398 [11:43:07] <mxh-> bielewelt: yeah like i said i missed
you're on Testing, sorry about that, i was told this channel
was for stable only earlier
1399 [11:43:11] <towo^work> bielewelt, there is a bugreport for
that issue
1400 [11:43:15] <Aebian> ah nvm I just used resize2fs for that
1401 [11:43:18] <Aebian> that worked
1402 [11:43:27] <towo^work> bielewelt, and this channel is for
stable support
1403 [11:43:33] <bielewelt> Sorry.
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1429 [11:52:44] <forcerecon> goodmorning debian!
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1431 [11:54:45] <mxh-> morning
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1433 [11:55:47] <forcerecon> the sun it not even up here..
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1450 [12:03:49] <BluesKaj> HI folks
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1456 [12:09:35] <woenxs> Hi
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1475 [12:21:41] <gidna> Hello
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1477 [12:22:59] <gidna> what's processor I have to chose to
downalod the usb stick if I have an intel i3 processor?
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1479 [12:23:29] <boodie> Hi (Jessie) I'm about to launch the
upgrade - if anything went wrong, I am planning to get back for help
through irssi; what is the irc server to connect to?
1480 [12:23:31] <towo^work> amd64
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1483 [12:25:07] <towo^work> gidna, amd64
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1492 [12:28:07] <gidna> Does the new debian distribution comes
with php7 ?
1493 [12:28:23] <gidna> *come
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1495 [12:29:26] <towo^work> gidna, yes
1496 [12:29:29] <Haohmaru> in synaptic i have "This package
is a dependency package, which depends on Debian's default
1497 [12:29:29] <Haohmaru> PHP version (currently 7.0)."
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1500 [12:30:03] <gidna> 'cause I want to install debian to
run a webserver with php7 for testing
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1508 [12:37:32] <gidna> during the installation can I install KDE?
1509 [12:37:50] <BluesKaj> gidna, yes
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1512 [12:38:57] <BluesKaj> gidna, just don't choose the
default DE or you'kk get gnome
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1518 [12:40:37] <gidna> BluesKaj: I managed to burn it on /dev/sdb
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1520 [12:40:44] <gidna> now I will try to install it...
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1524 [12:41:41] <BluesKaj> gidna, which image did you burn ?
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1528 [12:42:51] <Kman> for a light desktop environment, which one
is the best?
1529 [12:43:11] <Kman> xfce4 or cinnamon?
1530 [12:43:42] <Haohmaru> i'd say xfce4 or lxde
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1533 [12:44:13] <Kman> i tried xfce4, the experience was not so
good
1534 [12:44:20] <Kman> i want a gnome-based shell
1535 [12:44:29] <Haohmaru> yeah, but it's not too bad, i use
lxde tho
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1537 [12:44:46] <Haohmaru> there's also lxqt but i
didn't like the looks
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1542 [12:46:33] <Kman> How about MATE, it is based on gnome 2, it
should be fast
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1545 [12:46:55] <Kman> while cinnamon is based on gnome 3, should
be heavier that MATE
1546 [12:47:00] <Haohmaru> and gnome is inspired by apple,
isn't it?
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1560 [12:53:44] <jrmu> mate looks nice, I second it
1561 [12:53:50] <jrmu> apart from xfce it's probably my
favorite
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1577 [13:02:10] <Haohmaru> i've tried mate cinnamon, lxqt,
gnome, kde
1578 [13:02:26] <Haohmaru> kde is the worst
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1581 [13:02:54] <jrmu> I haven't tried lxqt yet. Is it
lighter than xfce?
1582 [13:03:05] <Haohmaru> maybe
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1584 [13:03:54] <Haohmaru> lightdm+openbox+pcmanfm is a nice combo
1585 [13:03:54] <jrmu> do you mind if I ask you more on
#debian-offtopic ?
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1598 [13:09:02] <Shadur> ... Sysadmin question: Suppose I mount
/tmp as noexec, would there be ny debian software that'd choke
on it?
1599 [13:09:47] <bielewelt> jrmu: In my experience, lxqt is not
lighter than xfce – quite the opposite.
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1603 [13:11:15] <jrmu> bielewelt: thanks. Maybe I'll still
keep recommending xfce then
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1630 [13:28:06] <Kman> i have MATE and xfce4 installed. The
default DE is MATE, but when logout, can not select XFCE4 or other
DEs
1631 [13:28:34] <Haohmaru> i think that's up to your login
manager
1632 [13:28:41] <Haohmaru> which one do you use?
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1638 [13:30:45] <Kman> lightdm?
1639 [13:30:54] <Haohmaru> weird then
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1641 [13:31:27] <Kman> how i can install another login manager
1642 [13:31:29] <Haohmaru> i also use lightdm, and it somehow
"magically" knows all desktop environments i have
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1645 [13:31:59] <Haohmaru> Kman, are you sure about all of that?
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1647 [13:32:11] <Kman> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
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1649 [13:32:19] <Haohmaru> you know where the session changer is
in lightdm, right?
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1655 [13:34:13] <Haohmaru> Kman,
replaced-url
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1657 [13:36:30] <Kman> Haohmaru: what is that widget?
1658 [13:37:20] <Haohmaru> in lightdm you have a button (it may
not look like a button, it may even be a listbox) where you can
select the desktop
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1660 [13:38:00] <Haohmaru> it opens a list with the desktops you
have (as far as lightdm knows) and you can switch it from there to
xfce or so
1661 [13:38:09] <Haohmaru> otherwise it will run the default one
1662 [13:38:13] <Kman> the program name?
1663 [13:38:26] <Haohmaru> uhm.. what program
1664 [13:38:34] <Haohmaru> this is in lightdm
1665 [13:38:41] <Kman> i could not find the button
1666 [13:39:51] <Haohmaru> do you have a toolbar at the top of the
screen?
1667 [13:40:04] <Kman> yeah
1668 [13:40:54] <Kman>
replaced-url
1669 [13:41:44] <Haohmaru> that's not lightdm
1670 [13:41:50] <Haohmaru> this is your desktop
1671 [13:42:01] <Haohmaru> mate i guess
1672 [13:42:23] <Haohmaru> logout from it, and it should bring you
to the lightdm login manager
1673 [13:42:32] <jrmu> Haohmaru: sorry about that. But yes, if you
disable javascript, icecat/firefox should work much faster
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1676 [13:43:17] <Kman> Haohmaru: no options in login screen to
select any DE
1677 [13:43:42] <Haohmaru> huh
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1680 [13:46:06] <Kman> here
replaced-url
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1682 [13:46:14] <boodie> Hi (Jessie) while upgrading (apt-get
upgrade), I have been prompted: "A new version
(/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucftmp) of configuration
file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades is available, but the
version installed currently has been locally │
1683 [13:46:14] <boodie> │ modified." ... "What do you
want to do about modified configuration file
50unattended-upgrades?" I honestly don't remember why and
when I modified the file (if I ever did). Should I opt for the
version suggested by the package maintainer?
1684 [13:47:21] <Haohmaru> Kman, and you don't have a toolbar
at the top?
1685 [13:47:31] <Haohmaru> or bottom, or somewhere
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1688 [13:48:37] <Haohmaru> Kman, i have installed debian with LXDE
only, and i still have the desktop switcher, because it lists at
least 3 options in my case: Default, LXDE, OpenBox
1689 [13:48:45] <Kman> i showed you
replaced-url
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1691 [13:49:04] <Haohmaru> that's your desktop
1692 [13:49:34] <Haohmaru> the previous screenshot was indeed from
lightdm, but was cropped and doesn't show the whole screen
1693 [13:49:35] <Kman> the default display manager is lightdm
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1695 [13:50:01] <Kman> from /etc/X11/default-display-manager
1696 [13:50:05] <towo^work> boodie, have you make any changes in
that file by yourself?
1697 [13:50:40] <towo^work> boodie, if no, use the new maintainers
file, if yes use your installed file
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1700 [13:51:47] <Haohmaru> Kman,
replaced-url
1701 [13:52:02] <Haohmaru> yours should look similar to this, this
is the gtk-greeter
1702 [13:52:24] <Haohmaru> see the toolbar thing? it has a few
icons.. well, the first one of them is a button
1703 [13:53:57] <Kman> i think i need to remove lightdm and
install gdm
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1705 [13:54:06] <Haohmaru> suit yourself
1706 [13:54:23] <Haohmaru> as long as it works and you can select
your options
1707 [13:55:34] <boodie> Hi (Jessie): In doubt, I went for the new
maintainers file. While upgrading (apt-get upgrade), I received the
error android-androresolvd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an
error code (1) and the upgrade terminated, now ... how do I check
whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"?
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1717 [14:01:00] <boodie> Hi (Jessie): While upgrading (first step,
"apt-get upgrade"), I received the following error
"android-androresolvd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an
error code (1)" and the upgrade terminated, now ... how do I
check whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"?
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1719 [14:01:30] <babilen> dpkg: bat
1720 [14:01:31] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
1721 [14:01:43] <babilen> boodie: ^
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1726 [14:02:52] <forcerecon> is any able to run this on their
debian stretch machine? I cannot get it to run at all..
1727 [14:02:52] <forcerecon>
replaced-url
1728 [14:02:53] <Kman> Haohmaru: it seems i can not find gdm
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1732 [14:03:35] <Haohmaru> have you messed up your debian by any
chance?
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1741 [14:05:17] <Kman> Haohmaru: ok gdm3
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1757 [14:10:19] <boodie> Hi (Jessie): how do I ste the output to
English?
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1771 [14:18:51] <boodie>
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1774 [14:20:24] <boodie> What would happen if I rerun
"apt-get upgrade"?
1775 [14:20:40] <Haohmaru> you'd go into the future
1776 [14:21:13] <ksk> boodie: to set output to english you can do
"LANG=C; $command"
1777 [14:21:24] <boodie> Thanks
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1812 [14:42:52] <boodie> Hi (Jessie): I am stuck in the middle of
upgrading; the output of apt-get "upgrade" is huge, so
I'm not sure if it can be pasted. Upgrade terminated because of
a faulty package (android-androresolvd). .. how do I check whether I
can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"?
1813 [14:43:26] <Haohmaru> smells like a sabotage from google
1814 [14:44:07] <towo^work> "how do I check whether I can
proceed further with "dist-upgrade"?" try it?
1815 [14:44:17] <towo^work> what should be?
1816 [14:44:18] <jelly> ,v android-androresolvd
1817 [14:44:19] <judd> An error has occurred and has been logged.
Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
1818 [14:44:22] <jelly> lol
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1820 [14:44:31] <jelly> judd, go to sleep
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1824 [14:45:09] <jelly> and those two, too
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1828 [14:45:31] <moldy> hi
1829 [14:46:01] <moldy> is it wrong to enter a fully-qualified
hostname (e.g. `myhost.example.org`) in /etc/hostname?
1830 [14:46:26] <boodie> Ok, I will try "dist-upgrade"
and see what happens ...
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1835 [14:47:37] <forcerecon> I want to connect to a network share
via ssh automatically each time I log in rather then manually each
time I reboot. How does one go about doing this. or maybe just throw
out some keywords and I can search for myself online. I have not
found anything with persistent ssh connection or mapping a permanent
drive in linux.. nada.. any help is appreciated
1836 [14:47:40] <moldy>
replaced-url
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1840 [14:48:23] <woenxs> use autofs
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1842 [14:48:39] <woenxs>
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1843 [14:49:50] <forcerecon> excellent.. reading now.. appreciated
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1860 [14:53:05] <jelly> ,v android-androresolvd
1861 [14:53:07] <judd> Package: android-androresolvd on amd64 --
jessie: 1.3-1; sid: 1.3-1+b1; buster: 1.3-1+b1; stretch: 1.3-1+b1
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1884 [15:01:38] <rovonovo_zoro>
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1886 [15:02:29] <Ormu> Had a crash... I've noticed several
brief flashes of the screen, and now something apparently crashed,
screen turned black and yellow'ish noisy line was seen on the
left edge. I suspect that this might be caused by xfwm4 composition.
Where should I look for logged information? Has anyone else noticed
similar problems?
1887 [15:03:12] <Ormu> GPU is Intel HD Graphics, integrated to CPU
which is Core i5-520M.
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1891 [15:04:24] <Ormu> This is xfwm4 version 4.12.4 (revision
7844952) for Xfce 4.12
1892 [15:05:10] <vwill> hi all
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1914 [15:18:23] <darxmurf> hi
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1926 [15:24:05] <Antares> С Днем Рождения Колян - ростите большими
и сильными!
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1928 [15:24:44] <Haohmaru> rrright
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1931 [15:25:45] <Haohmaru> can a folder somewhere on an ntfs
volume be mounted to a folder in the linux?
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1933 [15:25:59] <Haohmaru> like.. say..
D:\somewhere\deep\thisfolder
1934 [15:26:43] <towo^work> no#
1935 [15:26:52] <towo^work> yo can only mount a device
1936 [15:26:53] <Haohmaru> only the whole volume?
1937 [15:26:59] <Haohmaru> okay
1938 [15:27:32] <Ormu> hm, screen flashed again and i caught this
from dmesg: [ 1766.993135] [drm:ironlake_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR*
CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
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1940 [15:27:35] <Ormu> [ 1766.993235] [drm:ironlake_irq_handler
[i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun
1941 [15:28:16] <Haohmaru> i915 smells like your intel gpu driver
1942 [15:28:32] <Ormu> it is, my GPU is Intel HD Graphics
integrated to Core i5-520M CPU
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1945 [15:28:46] <Ormu> here's my previous message: Had a
crash... I've noticed several brief flashes of the screen, and
now something apparently crashed, screen turned black and
yellow'ish noisy line was seen on the left edge. I suspect that
this might be caused by xfwm4 composition. Where should I look for
logged information? Has anyone else noticed similar problems?
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1948 [15:29:23] <Haohmaru> xfwm is xfce's window manager?
1949 [15:29:26] <Ormu> yes
1950 [15:29:39] <Haohmaru> then i don't know.. i don't
use it
1951 [15:29:50] <Ormu> and it supports composition which is
currently enabled... I'm not sure if it causes this problem but
i wouldn't be surprised
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1953 [15:30:53] <Ormu> I had Xfce on LMDE on this computer
previously, composition was off and I never observed problems like
this. Now I installed Debian, composition is enabled (by default)
and this is happening
1954 [15:31:14] <towo^work> which ddx you are using?
1955 [15:31:19] <Ormu> ddx?
1956 [15:31:24] <towo^work> x driver
1957 [15:31:26] <Haohmaru> what's LMDE?
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1959 [15:31:49] <Ormu> Linux Mint Debian Edition, basically an
edition of Mint that uses Debian (Jessie) stuff
1960 [15:31:50] <towo^work> Haohmaru, linux mint debian edition
1961 [15:31:54] <Haohmaru> oh
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1964 [15:32:39] <Ormu> looks like it's not going to receive
major updates anytime soon and many software are getting old so I
switched. Nowadays I prefer plain debian anyway.
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1966 [15:33:26] <towo^work> Ormu, again, which x driver you are
using? intel or modesetting (wich is default)
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1968 [15:33:30] <enyc> debian MATE packages seem to work, fwiw!
1969 [15:33:40] <enyc> not sure about debian-supplied Cinnamon
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1973 [15:34:04] <Ormu> towo^work - default one i think,
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1975 [15:34:26] <towo^work> Ormu, then i would try intel, which is
better for modern intel gpu
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1987 [15:36:42] <Ormu> towo^work: i ran lshw -c video and it
shows: configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
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1989 [15:36:56] <Ormu> under "VGA compatible controller"
1990 [15:36:59] <towo^work> Ormu, that is the kernel driver
1991 [15:37:12] <Ormu> oh, meh
1992 [15:37:13] <towo^work> Xorg.0.log would tell you the x driver
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1996 [15:39:10] <Ormu> [ 26.157] (II) Loading
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
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1998 [15:39:33] <towo^work> that's, what i'm expecting
1999 [15:39:41] <towo^work> so i would test with intel
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2001 [15:40:29] <Ormu> ok, let's try that. Btw, why is this
modesetting driver used as a default? Is it related to free/non-free
aspects?
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2003 [15:41:14] <towo^work> no, it's because the intel ddx is
in a not so good shape for older chipsets
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2006 [15:41:46] <Ormu> hm :O
2007 [15:42:17] <towo^work> Ormu, you can use intel with mkdir -p
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"intel"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
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2014 [15:43:32] <Ormu> thanks, doing it now. Btw, this
"drm" thing in dmesg and elsewhere is confusing. It's
not related to digital restrictions management, right? :P
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2016 [15:43:57] <towo^work> Ormu, no, its direct rendering
management
2017 [15:44:01] <tremolo> direct rendering
2018 [15:44:05] <tremolo> oh, hi
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2020 [15:44:19] <stree> the software rendering mode is off,
download unetbootin, put the forest trees
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2024 [15:45:45] <celyr> mh
2025 [15:45:56] <celyr> lxterm is not showing the new colorful
prompt
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2027 [15:46:09] <celyr> If I force the PS1 with colors it does
work
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2029 [15:46:17] <celyr> I wonder why it was disabled with lxterm
2030 [15:46:22] <celyr> not sure I'm going to fix that tho
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2038 [15:49:19] <desktopgnubie> I've got a folder called
writings which contains many subfolders/ The contents of these
subfolders are only files terminated in .txt and .odt What command
shall I use to copy all the .odt files to a folder called backup?
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2040 [15:50:49] <celyr> find folder -name *.odt -exec cp {}
backup_folder \;
2041 [15:50:58] <celyr> or something like that
2042 [15:51:22] <celyr> desktopgnubie, do you wank to keep the
subdirectory structure ?
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2051 [15:55:02] <Haohmaru> wank? ;]
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2054 [15:55:29] <Ormu> now it's using the intel driver i
think: [ 23.920] (II) Loading
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
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2056 [15:56:08] <Haohmaru> that's not a black-box binary-blob
type of driver, is it?
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2059 [15:56:57] <Ormu> it says that it's provided by X.org
foundation, i suppose not. And I think Intel supports the
open-source driver development.
2060 [15:57:01] <RATS> iii ...
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2063 [15:57:36] * RATS I get one ram from laptop
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2065 [15:58:13] <jhutchins> desktopgnubie: rsync
2066 [15:58:15] * RATS good planning to building on airport aircraft
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2069 [15:59:23] <Ormu> towo^work: the package description for the
intel driver seems to discourage its use... and Archlinux wiki says
the same. Do you know why?
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2072 [16:00:05] <RATS> Asking Intel?
2073 [16:00:25] <Ormu> I'll use it anyway unless it causes
problems. thx for help!
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2075 [16:00:33] <jhutchins> towo^work: Ormu CTUlly, thw linw Ormu
showed with the i915 driver was the kernel module for the Intel
graphics.
2076 [16:00:36] * RATS HTML setting maybe...
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2078 [16:01:04] <Ormu> :O
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2083 [16:01:14] <RATS> Module 1 : ?
2084 [16:01:20] <afidegnum> what does this command means?
‘ps -ef’
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2086 [16:01:47] <Ormu> list all processes
2087 [16:02:08] * RATS I try check him
2088 [16:02:25] <RATS> Commands?
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2091 [16:03:09] <jhutchins> afidegnum: man ps will give you lots
of info and options.
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2102 [16:09:34] <desktopgnubie> celyr, my bad but I should have
mentioned that i want to copy the *.odt files in the folder writings
to the folder backup *keeping* the names of its subfolders
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2104 [16:09:53] <celyr> desktopgnubie, as jhutchins said rsync
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2107 [16:11:28] <desktopgnubie> sorry but i do not understand what
you mean by rsync. I am desktop newbie. what would be the full
command that i would have to execute?
2108 [16:11:40] <celyr> desktopgnubie, or you can pipe find output
with tar
2109 [16:12:42] <themill> desktopgnubie: if you ask how to do
something, there's a good chance someone will answer with the
name of a tool you can use to do it.
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2114 [16:13:46] <desktopgnubie> the mill, ok but the full command
would be nicer :)
2115 [16:14:09] <themill> not a chance.
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2118 [16:15:34] <celyr> desktopgnubie, well you can find using the
-name option like I told you and the -o option and then | to tar
that has a very easy syntax and to compress the stdin just use -
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2120 [16:16:01] <celyr> with tar you can also compress on the fly
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2122 [16:16:18] <celyr> look for J z and I will never remember the
xz syntax
2123 [16:16:46] <celyr> well it's J
2124 [16:16:51] <celyr> j is for bzip2
2125 [16:17:57] <Ormu> if there's a compressed tar file with
many files inside, is it necessary to de-compress the entire file to
read the list of contents?
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2128 [16:18:47] <Ormu> or is it possible to get the list without
full decompression, AND are there archivers that can do it this way?
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2131 [16:19:49] <celyr> Ormu, -t
2132 [16:19:55] <celyr> freaking man tar
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2141 [16:23:34] <Ormu> celyr: hm ok. So that way it only
de-compresses a part of the file until it finds the file list? I
think not all GUI archivers can read the contents except by
de-compressing everything first (and I don't mean extracting
the tar file, just removing the gzip/bzip2/lzma/whatever
compression)
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2143 [16:24:31] <celyr> I think that every sane compression format
has an header with the list of the files so I don't expect that
list option is going to decompress anything but the header
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2146 [16:25:04] <celyr> well
2147 [16:25:10] <Ormu> hm...
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2152 [16:26:38] <celyr> If the archive is seekable it actually
doesn't read it all
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2154 [16:26:53] <celyr> But If it's compressed then I guess
that it has to be uncompressed completely
2155 [16:27:04] <Ormu> yeah, that's what i somewhat expected
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2157 [16:27:15] <jelly> celyr, tar isn't a compression
format, it's just an archive format. streaming compressions
typically applied on top are not aware of tar metadata
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2159 [16:27:59] <jelly> so yeah, you need to pass the whole thing
thru a decompression stage to be able to list the contents
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2165 [16:29:07] <eugenmayer> hello, any guid or summary on how key
distributions for apt-servers are to be handled with stretch? it
seems like most of the configuration management stuff is broken with
stretch since keys are distributed a different way?
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2170 [16:30:53] <jelly> keys for what, eugenmayer?
2171 [16:31:11] <eugenmayer> apt repos, like docker, percona and
so forth
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2173 [16:31:30] <eugenmayer> jelly:
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2174 [16:31:33] <jelly> just put them in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
2175 [16:31:58] <eugenmayer> well thats what i got, but is there a
way to do this the old fashioned way
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2177 [16:32:05] <eugenmayer> apt-key alike?
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2181 [16:32:26] <citypw>
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2189 [16:34:42] <jelly> eugenmayer, > gpg: failed to start the
dirmngr '/usr/bin/dirmngr'
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2191 [16:35:07] <jelly> eugenmayer, so... install dirmngr. Some
Recommends are actually useful.
2192 [16:35:49] <jelly> if you go out of your way to disable
Recommends, you'll get breakage now and then
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2195 [16:36:28] <jelly> nothing to do with trusted.gpg.d/
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2208 [16:38:48] <eugenmayer> jelly: i remember trying this with my
recipes, and installing dirmngr did not help in this case
2209 [16:38:51] <themill> dropping keyring files into
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d also works in jessie
2210 [16:39:15] <jelly> eugenmayer, then show your case.
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2215 [16:39:35] <eugenmayer> jelly: i will, sorry, Will reproduce
and come back later. Thanks in any way!
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2219 [16:40:23] <themill> The use of apt-key for this sort of
thing has been discouraged for years btw
2220 [16:40:39] <Shadur> If I have multiple entries for, e.g.,
eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, will it assign/deassign each of the
addresses mentioned in said entries on ifup/ifdown ?
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2224 [16:42:35] <saijusgeorge> Hi Guys , is it possible to add
multiple ExecStart= command prameter in one systemd file eg:
/lib/systemd/system/snort.service
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2262 [17:01:04] <TandyUK> ok, im confused, on a debian box, i have
crontabs for 2 users
2263 [17:01:17] <TandyUK> in /etc/aliases, both users forward mail
to the same address
2264 [17:01:35] <TandyUK> im gettign emails from root's
crons, but not from james'
2265 [17:02:00] <petn-randall> TandyUK: Did you run
'postalias /etc/aliases' after updating that file?
2266 [17:02:02] <TandyUK> when logged in as james, i can
"mail -s subject email@addy" and it gets delivered
2267 [17:02:07] <greycat> Are you sure both of them actually
*produce* output?
2268 [17:02:09] <TandyUK> ah i ran newaliases
2269 [17:02:18] <TandyUK> yes the cron job defineitly gives output
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2271 [17:02:37] <jhutchins_wk> TandyUK: Does the output get
delivered to james?
2272 [17:02:54] <TandyUK> its james crontab so yes
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2274 [17:03:14] <TandyUK> i dont have 'postalias'
2275 [17:03:22] <TandyUK> debian 8 this is
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2279 [17:04:24] <TandyUK> im watching my mailservers logs, it
doesnt appear that james' crontab is even sending a mail (or
trying to)
2280 [17:04:51] <TandyUK> this is defined in /etc/cron.d/filename
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2282 [17:04:58] <greycat> Create a new job that simply does
"echo hello world" and runs in the next couple minutes,
and see if that one produces a mail.
2283 [17:05:05] <TandyUK> * * * * * james
/opt/observium/adslsynccheck.php
2284 [17:05:16] <TandyUK> that DOES give output, so no idea why im
not seeingit
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2287 [17:06:03] <greycat> Are you sure it runs at all? The . in
the filename...
2288 [17:06:15] <TandyUK> added * * * * * james echo hello world
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2290 [17:06:35] <TandyUK> yeah theres like 15 other cronjobs
defined in that file
2291 [17:06:38] <TandyUK> all of which run
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2293 [17:07:30] <themill> TandyUK: do you have MAILTO= in your
user's crontab?
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2298 [17:08:08] <mquin> Can you succesfully run it as
'james' outside of cron? Does it depend on any environment
variables, or try to run any external commands?
2299 [17:08:13] <greycat> He's apparently using files in
/etc/cron.d/ not individual crontabs.
2300 [17:08:17] <TandyUK> no, but then neither does root, and im
getting mails fro mroots crontabs
2301 [17:08:44] <greycat> Or rather, one gigantic file in
/etc/cron.d/ instead of one file per job, god only knows why, what
he's doing...
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2304 [17:10:01] <TandyUK> all the crons are for the same service
(observium)
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2307 [17:10:51] <greycat> The first thing is to find out whether
the job is actually running *at all*. It should create a log entry
somewhere in /var/log/ if/when it does run.
2308 [17:11:09] <TandyUK> yeah im watching cron.log atm
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2310 [17:11:24] <TandyUK> and wtf is all i can say "Error:
bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d/observium"
2311 [17:11:24] <themill> TandyUK: mail should go to the owner of
the crontab not the user it ran as btw
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2314 [17:11:32] <greycat> Second thing is to test user
"james" ability to receive email. Send mail from james to
james. See where it goes.
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2316 [17:11:50] <TandyUK> james is forwarded to my external mail,
which gets delivered
2317 [17:12:28] <greycat> Third thing is to see whether the cron
job runs *correctly* in the cron environment. Maybe you've
forgotten to give it +x permissions, or a proper shebang.
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2319 [17:12:47] <TandyUK> the problem is "Error: bad
username; while reading /etc/cron.d/observium"
2320 [17:12:56] <greycat> Maybe it relies on stdin being a tty, or
the TERM variable being set, or some other environmental thing that
won't be present in cron.
2321 [17:13:05] <TandyUK> and nfi why, its running as the same
user as every other entry in there
2322 [17:13:43] <TandyUK> ah ffs, it was a previous cron edit that
was wrong
2323 [17:13:50] <TandyUK> nothign to do with what ive just added
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2325 [17:14:24] <TandyUK> lo and behold i suddenly have mail
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2360 [17:28:54] <boodie> Hi (Jessie): I am dist-upgrading ... it
says "Only one display manager can manage a given X server, but
multiple display manager packages are installed. Please select which
display manager should run by default" and it offers gdm3 /
lightdm / sddm ... which should I choose?
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2363 [17:30:39] <babilen> boodie: Which one do you want to use?
2364 [17:30:44] <towo`> boodie, it's your choice
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2366 [17:32:00] <Ormu> no issues with the intel driver yet :o
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2368 [17:32:23] <boodie> No idea ... at the moment I have Xfce, if
it makes any sense, but it's a window manager, I understand
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2370 [17:33:21] <Ormu> lightdm is the usual option for Xfce
desktop
2371 [17:33:29] <boodie> OK, thanx!
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2373 [17:34:46] <aladeen> hello i'm a beginner debian user. I
can't login with graphic desktop becouse the hdd is full. I
don't know why. Before few days the hdd was almost empty in
this time full.
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2377 [17:35:12] <aladeen> what can i do whit this problem
2378 [17:35:36] <jhutchins_wk> boodie: You could uninstall the
ones you don't use.
2379 [17:35:50] <jhutchins_wk> boodie: Sometimes gdm is useful for
things that rely on gnome authentication.
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2381 [17:36:51] <Marthsoul> Hello, looking for help with samba -
my configuration file is -
replaced-url
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2383 [17:37:11] <jelly> aladeen, run "df", take note
which filesystem is full. The try to do "apt-get clean" as
root, for a start, run "df" again and see if there's
any difference
2384 [17:38:09] <aladeen> i tried this solution but happened
nothing
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2386 [17:39:00] <greycat> Finding out where the big files are is
an art form, not a recipe.
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2388 [17:39:20] <greycat> You typically *guess* places that are
likely to have unexpected/unwated large files, and you look in those
places, and see if you guessed correctly.
2389 [17:39:37] <greycat> Such places include /var/tmp and /tmp
and /home/youruser and /var/log ...
2390 [17:39:55] <jhutchins_wk> aladeen: Since we don't know
what your system is running, we don't know what's likely
to be taking up space. If it filled up over a short period of time,
I would suspect that something is logging a lot.
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2392 [17:40:43] <jhutchins_wk> aladeen: One thing that is likely
to free up at least a little bit of space is to run logrotate -f
/etc/logrotate.conf
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2398 [17:44:07] <jelly> aladeen, okay, can you pastebin the output
of df
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2400 [17:44:17] <boodie> It seems that the dist-upgrade was
completed, giving the usual error message regarding
android-androresolvd -
replaced-url
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2403 [17:44:39] <boodie> I should reboot and see what happened ...
fingers crossed
2404 [17:44:57] <aladeen> the problem is in the /var folder
2405 [17:45:16] <aladeen> it's size 450Gb
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2407 [17:45:24] <greycat> cd /var ; du -sk *
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2409 [17:45:46] <greycat> or -sh if you prefer that
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2411 [17:46:20] * jelly finds du -s a waste of iops, traverses all the
fs tree, then reports just top level
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2413 [17:46:45] <jelly> I usually something like "du -x /var
> /dev/shm/du-x-var.txt", then sort -n /dev/shm/du-x-var.txt
| tail
2414 [17:46:55] <greycat> Ideally the directory info will be
cached at that point, so subsequent du's inside subdirs will go
quickly.
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2416 [17:47:49] <jelly> except when you have millions of small
files instead of a small number of huge ones
2417 [17:48:25] <greycat> As I said, it's an art form. If it
gets "stuck" on something then I just Ctrl-C it.
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2420 [17:48:35] <jelly> that's what -x is for
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2424 [17:49:56] <aladeen> ahhha the problem in the
var/log/cups/error_log file
2425 [17:50:11] <greycat> good work finding it
2426 [17:50:18] <aladeen> thanks guy
2427 [17:50:39] <Marthsoul> Hello, looking for help with samba -
my configuration file is -
replaced-url
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2440 [17:53:48] <aladeen> thanks for everyone
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2443 [17:54:12] <eugenmayer> jelly: any way you know, how this is
done properly in debian stretch ?
replaced-url
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2446 [17:54:41] <eugenmayer> jelly: when i am reading the docs
right, symlinking /dev/null to
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is what shall be done?
2447 [17:54:42] <jaami> my debian does not follow my instructions
because i removed every sign of firefox from my system. please give
me exact link for net install iso so i can re install debian
2448 [17:54:54] <jelly> eugenmayer, I think
70-persistent-net.rules doesn't even get generated on a fresh
stretch at all?
2449 [17:55:16] <eugenmayer> jelly: is strict nic naming opt in or
opt out on fresh installs?
2450 [17:55:29] <eugenmayer> if it is opt out, i guess those files
will not be generated, yes
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2452 [17:55:42] <jelly> predictable iface names are default with
new installs
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2455 [17:55:50] <jhutchins_wk> eugenmayer: I think the idea is
that the new naming convention makes the lock-down of MAC id's
unnecessary.
2456 [17:56:04] <jelly> eugenmayer, I wouldn't call it
"strict" :>
2457 [17:56:23] <jelly> (or predictable really)
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2459 [17:57:01] <jelly> (it's only as predictable as your
PCI/USB device layout)
2460 [17:57:26] <eugenmayer> jelly: how would i opt out properly
from that, the grub command line only? net.ifname=0 ?
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2462 [17:57:54] <jaami> i am next in queue
2463 [17:58:00] <eugenmayer> jelly: i think the vagrant devs /
bento guys do want to stay with eth0 for now, so i would opt out in
that PR
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2468 [17:59:32] <jaami> and ?
2469 [18:00:10] <jelly> eugenmayer, sure, that's what I do
for our VMs as well.
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2474 [18:00:24] <jelly> our jessies didn't even systemd.
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2476 [18:01:01] <jaami> please give me correct link for the debian
netinstall iso. and please dont give me the one that will not work
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2478 [18:01:22] <towo`> jaami,
replaced-url
2479 [18:01:23] <eugenmayer> jelly: you opt out using grub also?
2480 [18:01:30] <jelly> jaami, where did you install it from last
time? Did you need non-free firmware or not?
2481 [18:01:48] <jelly> eugenmayer, grub is just fine.
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2483 [18:02:00] <jelly> we have a separate small disk just for
grub!
2484 [18:02:03] <jelly> and /boot
2485 [18:02:10] <jaami> jelly , i got help from someone i dont
remember his name.
2486 [18:02:26] <jelly> jaami, do you have a laptop or a wireless
card
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2488 [18:02:57] <jaami> the iso i download from debian site never
work for me, i have tried 2 times already
2489 [18:03:11] <jaami> jelly , yes, laptop wih wifi card
2490 [18:03:13] <greycat> !firmware image
2491 [18:03:13] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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2496 [18:03:57] <jelly> jaami, download netinst from there, then.
^^ amd64 -> iso-cd -> firmware blah blah iso
2497 [18:04:27] <hexnewbie> On Stretch, how do you start a samba
domain controller? Starting samba.service fails, because nmbd fails
with an error - the error is that I shouldn't start nmbd, but
samba instead
2498 [18:04:32] <towo`> jaami, wget -Nc
replaced-url
2499 [18:04:36] <hexnewbie> “You should start
'samba' instead, and it will control starting the internal
nbt server”
2500 [18:04:50] <hexnewbie> How do I start samba instead of
samba.service, LOL?
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2503 [18:05:11] <towo`> hexnewbie, you should start smbd, not
samba
2504 [18:05:25] <jaami> jelly , yes, one question, amd64 is good
for intel i7?
2505 [18:05:32] <greycat> jaami: yes
2506 [18:05:34] <towo`> yes, it is
2507 [18:05:49] <jaami> oh ok, ty everybody for the help
2508 [18:05:53] <greycat> Intel copied the amd64 architecture.
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2510 [18:06:03] <hexnewbie> towo`: smbd also fails with the exact
same error - You should start 'samba' instead, and it will
control starting smbd if required
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2512 [18:06:40] <towo`> hexnewbie, stretch?
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2514 [18:06:46] <hexnewbie> towo`: Yes
2515 [18:07:03] <jaami> ohhh, amd64 is parent of intel. really, i
had bad experience with amd processors. it get slower when heated.
2516 [18:07:06] <greycat> My stretch machine with samba installed
has an smbd.service and an nmbd.service running, and "systemctl
status samba" says it's masked.
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2518 [18:07:13] <patr> Has debian now live cd sidtributions?
2519 [18:07:26] <jelly> !live
2520 [18:07:27] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built
Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can
be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from
replaced-url
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2522 [18:07:55] <patr> Is the ryzen cpu supportet by strech?
2523 [18:07:56] <greycat> The Live CDs are known to have issues if
you try to install with them. Use the netinst or the full DVD image.
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2525 [18:08:25] <eugenmayer> jelly: thank you!
2526 [18:08:29] <jelly> cheers
2527 [18:08:41] <patr> I tested it wwith ubuntu 17.10 beta release
2528 [18:08:49] <hexnewbie> towo`: Oh. I figured it out. I need to
start samba-ad-dc
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2530 [18:09:05] <patr> and that is not so good
2531 [18:09:28] <eugenmayer> jelly: there is still a lot of work
to get all the packer / chef / cloud images up to speed with stretch
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2533 [18:09:51] <jelly> patr, if you want excellent linux support,
wait a year before buying a new platform
2534 [18:10:00] <jelly> (never buy latest)
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2538 [18:10:40] <patr> jelly the support is not so good
2539 [18:10:57] <towo`> hexnewbie, i was wrong since i'm on
unstable, there ist samba-ad-dc.service masked and smbd has to be
used
2540 [18:10:57] <patr> i installed the backports kernels
2541 [18:11:11] <patr> but it is not stable enough
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2546 [18:11:36] <hexnewbie> towo`: It was masked. I unmasked it.
:S
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2548 [18:12:09] <towo`> hexnewbie, on sid samba starts fine with
the smbd service
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2551 [18:14:18] <patr> hallo treaki
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2594 [18:40:13] <Cerebr0> Hi there ! I was wondering, what are the
main changes with stretch becoming the stable version ?
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2596 [18:40:39] <nkuttler> Cerebr0: what do you mean? see the
release notes?
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2599 [18:41:17] <Cerebr0> I just don't really get it
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2601 [18:41:44] <Cerebr0> Is the system changing, like the OS
itself ? or is it just new packages added to the (maybe a bit
changed) OS ?
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2604 [18:42:46] <boodie> Hi (Stretch): I managed to successfully
upgrade, everything seems to work. Thanks to everybody for help
& patience.
2605 [18:42:57] <boodie> One couple of minor quirks; 1) firefox
seems in trouble with the video contents (youtube). I deactivated
flash and it loads the content, but briefly afterwards the video
freezes, while the sound keeps going.
2606 [18:43:01] <boodie> 2) In aptitude I see chromium as
updatable package, but it has conflicts. The current version of
chromium installed works, though and shows video content with audio
no problem
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2612 [18:44:29] <mvaenskae> cheers, how would i best execute an
arm-binary in debian? using qemu in some mode i gather
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2627 [18:53:36] <mvaenskae> ah, i am a derp, i have a pi3 running
some linux... issue solved :)
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2629 [18:53:53] <BCMM> mvaenskae: there is user-mode qemu, but
unless that binary is statically linked, you're likely to have
to jump through some hoops
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2634 [18:54:36] <BCMM> mvaenskae: i.e. you will also need any ARM
libraries it links against, and to fiddle with paths to make it find
those libraries
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2636 [18:54:55] <mvaenskae> so i think my approach with the pi is
the quickest way to get things working for a single binary
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2638 [18:55:16] <BCMM> mvaenskae: i mean, there's a lot of
different sorts of ARM
2639 [18:55:26] <mvaenskae> true
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2641 [18:55:48] <BCMM> mvaenskae: if its not built for the same OS
and arch you're running on the pi it still might not work. can
you give any more information about this binary?
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2643 [18:57:07] <mvaenskae> i can build it from source; i was able
to cross-compile it and such and was quite stumped then on how to
run it
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2646 [18:58:04] <BCMM> mvaenskae: ah, that's OK then!
you'll have the necessary arm libs to run it somewhere in the
system you used to cross-compile it
2647 [18:58:16] <BCMM> mvaenskae: you need the debian package
qemu-user
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2650 [18:59:01] <BCMM> you can execute it using qemu-arm (as
opposed to qemu-system-arm, which emulates an entire machine
complete with OS)
2651 [18:59:05] <mvaenskae> so basically follow this guide here?
replaced-url
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2653 [18:59:29] <BCMM> and you will need to set the appropriate
directory in QEMU_LD_PREFIX
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2656 [19:00:10] <BCMM> mvaenskae: i've not read that, or done
that before on debian
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2658 [19:00:31] <BCMM> is that guide similar to how you got the
ARM toolchain you built this binary with?
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2660 [19:01:44] <mvaenskae> the guide i linked is what i would
have run; the guide i followed for cross-compiling was a different
one
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2662 [19:02:03] <BCMM> ah, i see. that guide is using the awesome
binfmt_misc system rather than calling qemu-arm manually
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2668 [19:02:46] <BCMM> i was talking about running qemu-arm with
appropriate params to execute the binary; with this guide, you will
just do ./a.out and Linux will magically work out that it needs to
use qemu to execute it
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2671 [19:04:11] <BCMM> mvaenskae: i was asking if the guide
overlapped with what you've already done, like the dpkg-cross
bits for example
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2673 [19:04:41] <BCMM> mvaenskae: you presumably already have an
arm libc, and should try to run the binary with the one you used to
build it
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2680 [19:13:26] <boodie> Hi (Stretch); after the upgrade from
jessie I am left with a dependency conflict (chromium) ... what is
the best way to sort it out?
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2708 [19:26:47] <patr> What do you think is a epyc processor to
use with debian linux?
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2717 [19:29:39] <teraflops> AARCH64
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2744 [19:46:05] <tw> Is there a device enumeration thing for
aarch64 that doesn't require manual devicetree setup with a
generic kernel?
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2746 [19:47:10] <teraflops> idk
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2748 [19:47:45] <pie3>
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2749 [19:47:49] <pie3> are you aware about such awards?
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2771 [19:56:22] <jdennis1> I've noticed a few times when I do
an apt-get upgrade on a kvm guest and it's host (both debian
Jessie) that the guest end's up with an apt-get upgrade process
that stopped in the middle and I have to re-run it. Also this time
it happened, I also ended up with a corrupt mysql rely log file.
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2773 [19:57:08] <jdennis1> is there a best practice or something I
should be doing here to avoid that? Like shutting down guests before
doing an apt-get upgrade on the host? I feel confident I didn't
reboot the host while the guest was still updating.
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2784 [20:02:37] <jhutchins_wk> jdennis1: I would at the very least
avoid updating both the host and the guest at the same time.
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2786 [20:03:13] <jhutchins_wk> jdennis1: Some services get
restarted on some updates, that could be what's tripping your
guests, so shutting them down while upgrading the host is probably a
good idea.
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2820 [20:21:42] <vwill> hi all
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2825 [20:23:25] <jdennis1> jhutchins_wk: thanks for the response
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2836 [20:26:26] <eugenmayer1> is there any way to opt out from
persistent nic names using a preseed file ( like setting cmd_linux
in a preseed )_?
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2862 [20:40:43] <agowa338> I've a problem with dpkg. I'm
trying to run "dpkg --configure -a" and I receive
"dpkg: error: error creating new backup file
'/var/lib/dpkg/status-old': Operation not permitted."
How can I fix this?
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2867 [20:44:54] <Brigo> agowa338, it looks like dpkg can't
write there. Is the disk full?
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2872 [20:45:53] <agowa338> no, the disk is not full, I even can
touch to create that file, but it still fails.
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2874 [20:46:13] <agowa338> But I should say, that it is running
within an nspawn container
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2880 [20:49:48] <BlackBishop> any simple way to get a vnc on my :0
screen as soon as X starts !?
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2890 [20:55:02] <agowa338> Brigo: ok, found the problem it is
systemd related... the some files (not that from the error message)
were generated with uid and gid 0 on the host (so they were owned by
nobody within the nspawn container), so the namespace mapping seams
to have failed.
2891 [20:55:47] <agowa338> Brigo: Now I'm going to delete and
regenerate that container. The whole filesystem is messed up because
of that.
2892 [20:56:25] <stefano_> hello guys
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2894 [20:58:01] <Brigo> agowa338, a lot of fun :)
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2898 [20:58:47] <stefano_> I installed debian next to windows 10
few days ago. Windows uses 250 gb, debian 90. I just realized i love
my debian too much, after an hard work it works perfectly! despite
mesa drivers are a lil bit slower, i'd still like to move more
things to it, also available on linux steam games
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2900 [20:59:12] <stefano_> the fact is that, as u can guess, 90 gb
are too little to install good games
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2902 [20:59:23] <jmcnaught> agowa338: i had that happen to me a
few weeks ago then i couldn't reproduce it. Are you using
--private-users-chown or -U?
2903 [20:59:23] <stefano_> soooo
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2905 [20:59:29] <agowa338> Brigo: thanks, but without knowing the
root cause it seams somewhat unreliable to me. So I'll try
recreating the problem to find the exact root cause.
2906 [20:59:36] <stefano_> how can i enlarge my debian
installation?
2907 [20:59:46] <mutante> stefano_: delete Windows and you have
250G for games :)
2908 [21:00:16] <mutante> stefano_: well, if you selected
"with LVM" during install then resizing is much easier
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2910 [21:00:32] <_rubik> stefano_: Someone please correct me if
I'm wrong but you are not able to resize the drive unless you
used an LVM
2911 [21:00:43] <mutante> you can add a second drive though
2912 [21:00:43] <stree> second
2913 [21:00:47] <stefano_> mutante: are u italian? (seen your
name) actually i need windows too so cannot delete it ahah
2914 [21:00:48] <jhutchins_wk> stefano_: it's possible to
shrink the Windows partition and grow the linux partition.
2915 [21:00:52] <agowa338> stefano_: boot up windows (if bitlocker
encrypted) shrink your partition than delete the linux partition and
reinstall.
2916 [21:00:56] <stefano_> oh damn
2917 [21:01:05] <stefano_> it didn't ask me if i wanted to
use lvm :(
2918 [21:01:11] <agowa338> or buy a second hard drive
2919 [21:01:15] <stefano_> damn
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2921 [21:01:16] <jhutchins_wk> stefano_: You need to have a backup
of anything you can't just reinstall, because things can go
wrong in the process.
2922 [21:01:23] <mutante> stefano_: in the auto-partioning step it
should say something like "encrypted with LVM"
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2924 [21:01:35] <_rubik> stefano_: It should have asked you if you
wanted a logical volume during the install.
2925 [21:01:47] <stefano_> mutante: i know. installing it to an
empty hdd it asked me, not this time.
2926 [21:01:52] <jhutchins_wk> stefano_: You can still resize
partitions, but you they need to be unmounted (boot to live CD).
2927 [21:02:02] <mutante> stefano_: not Italian :) and yea, what
jhutchins_wk said
2928 [21:02:13] <stefano_> jhutchins_wk: that's a good news
2929 [21:02:18] <stefano_> thank you guys!
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2931 [21:02:27] <jhutchins_wk> stefano_: The most common thing to
go wrong is "Oops" - human error.
2932 [21:02:38] <BlackBishop> I tried this to get the vnc get up
when gdm starts ..
2933 [21:02:40] <BlackBishop>
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2934 [21:02:41] <agowa338> you also could install onto an usb
(recommending usb 3.0 sticks) ;-)
2935 [21:02:47] <stefano_> jhutchins_wk: i know ahah
2936 [21:03:03] <stefano_> agowa338: and for me? i don't have
3.0 :P
2937 [21:03:26] <agowa338> than use 2.0 with copy to ram boot
loader parameter and overlay fs
2938 [21:03:31] <stree> thats automatic overlay
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2941 [21:04:18] <agowa338> BlackBishop: Why use vnc? Isn't
ssh and/or xpra an alternative?
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2943 [21:04:44] <jmcnaught> BlackBishop: are you using upstart?
why edit files in /etc/init?
2944 [21:05:13] <stefano_>
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2947 [21:05:48] <BlackBishop> agowa338: not my choice to make. and
hard to change the user's mind.
2948 [21:06:10] <BlackBishop> jmcnaught: debian 8.8 so .. no :/
where should I change it then ?
2949 [21:06:25] <BlackBishop> I guess /etc/gdm3/Init/Default
before the exit 0 would work ! :/ any other pretty way ?
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2952 [21:08:12] <agowa338> BlackBishop: From an users perspective
xpra is better, because it looks like the app would be running
locally.
2953 [21:08:43] <BlackBishop> agowa338: good luck trying to
convince old people to try new stuff :|
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2955 [21:09:00] <BlackBishop> if it would up to me I'd
recommend X forwarding and no root login
2956 [21:09:08] <BlackBishop> but .. again, not my choice to make.
2957 [21:09:14] <jmcnaught> BlackBishop: look at "man
gdm3" for what gdm3 tries to execute. the files in /etc/init
are for upstart which is a discontinued init replacement.
2958 [21:09:22] <BlackBishop> ok
2959 [21:09:33] <agowa338> BlackBishop: I convinced people
switching from xp to windows 7 and windows 10, so I know what
you're facing right now ;-)
2960 [21:09:52] <tw> does xpra still leak server-side memory?
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2966 [21:10:52] <agowa338> tw: I haven't noticed that
recently, so I think not?
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2970 [21:11:42] <tw> You'd notice. After a day, it'd be
>1GB RES for something semi-static.
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2973 [21:12:17] <tw> So must be mostly fixed.
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2975 [21:12:45] <stefano_> can i see if a disk is lvm from disk
management?
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2977 [21:12:53] <Vasistha> I have a thinkpad w500 running jessie
(oldstable). If I bring up xev, I can see key press events for the
volume-up and volume-down keys, but not for mute. Mute used to work
before I upgraded to jessie (some time ago). Any idea what I can do
to make the mute button work?
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2983 [21:14:19] <agowa338> stefano_: if you mean the windows one
no, from the linux one it would say it is lvm ;-)
2984 [21:14:45] <stefano_> agowa338: were exactly. if there
isn't at all means it's not? :(
2985 [21:15:34] <carp> Hi. If a person accidently were to type in
their password into the terminal and press enter, it is now easily
visible. What would you recommend? Should the person try to remove
this command from 'history' as it were.
2986 [21:16:00] <mr__tea> I recommend to change the password
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2991 [21:17:19] <agowa338> stefano_: "fdisk /dev/sda"
=> p => Spalte Typ
2992 [21:17:20] <teraflops> carp: the issue I see more is people
typing their password in the user prompt either on tty or DM
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2995 [21:17:37] <teraflops> and it's shown in logs obv
2996 [21:18:03] <agowa338> carp: change the password and go ahead
2997 [21:18:05] <carp> The computer is just a personal computer,
and only one user. Is it still a security risk?
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2999 [21:18:52] <mr__tea> carp: heh just change the password :D
3000 [21:18:52] <teraflops> it wont hurt if you change your
passwd, but I dont think is an issue
3001 [21:19:09] <mr__tea> good practice.
3002 [21:19:38] <carp> Yeah, a good idea to do that. Thanks for
the tips guys.
3003 [21:19:51] <Vasistha> carp: history -c will clear your entire
history, or you can use history -d with a particular line number to
delete one entry. help history
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3010 [21:21:49] <carp> Vasistha: thanks
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3073 [21:53:53] <jhutchins_wk> carp: It's a pretty narrow
security list.
3074 [21:54:21] <jhutchins_wk> carp: "Change the
password" is the correct action, but "Oh well" is
almost as good in your case.
3075 [21:55:04] <jhutchins_wk> carp: Someone would have to get
access to the system and be able to read the .history file in your
$HOME, which would suggest they didn't need your password
anyway.
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3095 [22:04:15] <carmelo11> sensors | egrep
"temp1|temp2|temp3" | cut -c 16-19 | tr '\r'
'\t' >> temp.txt
3096 [22:04:52] <carmelo11> ops I wrong
3097 [22:04:59] <carmelo11> sensors | egrep
"temp1|temp2|temp3" | cut -c 16-19 | tr '\n'
'\t' >> temp.txt
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3100 [22:05:19] <carmelo11> echo -e "\r" >>
temp.txt
3101 [22:05:33] <carmelo11> I have to write to a file, the
following column values, each value must be separated from a tab.
The code works the problem is that at the end of temp3 is printed a
tab and also every time I run the code I also run "echo
..."
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3103 [22:05:54] <abrotman> carmelo11: use sed, trim off the last
one
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3107 [22:06:47] <greycat> Why are you appending a carriage return
+ newline to the file?
3108 [22:07:00] <carmelo11> abrotman Then the code as it would be?
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3110 [22:07:23] <greycat> Are you sending the file to a Windows
system?
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3112 [22:08:14] <carmelo11> greycat no I use debian
3113 [22:08:19] <greycat> Why are you appending a carriage return
+ newline to the file?
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3115 [22:09:15] <carmelo11> greycat Because otherwise I write more
than three values in the same column
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3118 [22:09:54] <greycat> mapfile -t a < <(sensors | grep
'temp[123]' | cut -c16-19); IFS=$'\t'; echo
"${a[*]}"; unset IFS
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3120 [22:10:25] <greycat> I will just assume your answer was
"Because I don't know what the hell I'm doing."
Because \r is useless.
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3124 [22:11:27] <carmelo11> The correct output must be: 40.0 tab
45.0 tab 55.0 new line
3125 [22:12:37] <greycat> Then use mine, not yours.
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3128 [22:12:53] <greycat> Yours was 40.0 tab 45.0 tab 55.0 tab
carriage return new line
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3130 [22:13:30] <Spec> greycat: wow
3131 [22:13:53] <Spec> mapfile instead of awk looks so grand
3132 [22:14:10] <carmelo11> Yes, my is: 40.0 tab 45.0 tab 55.0 tab
carriage return new line
3133 [22:14:55] <Hiro1> is anyone here familiar with debian
cluster environments?
3134 [22:15:15] <abrotman> greycat: you're going to break him
:)
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3137 [22:16:12] <carmelo11> greycat I would avoid using IFS and
mapfile, something simpler and easier to read
3138 [22:16:22] <greycat> Spec: Could probably be improved more
but I'd have to see the actual output of "sensors",
so it wasn't worthwhile.
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3140 [22:16:40] <greycat> carmelo11: Make it correct first. THEN
make it elegant.
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3142 [22:17:18] <greycat> It is absolutely useless to write a
bunch of elegant code that is wrong.
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3146 [22:19:46] <Spec> greycat: i've never seen mapfile
before :)
3147 [22:19:48] <carmelo11> greycat But with sed you can do
something?
3148 [22:19:54] <Spec> but it's a builtin so that's +1
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3158 [22:23:42] <greycat> Spec:
replaced-url
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3166 [22:26:25] <Spec> greycat: i have used some of these things,
but have always used awk when mapfile obviously would have worked
better even
3167 [22:26:43] <Spec> so thanks :)
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