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10[00:04:05] <bkeys> I hate debian, I _hate_ debian, I _*hate*_
debian, I _*HATE*_ debian
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23[00:08:21] <dvs> du hast nicht
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25[00:08:38] <AlexLikeRock> du
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28[00:08:51] <AlexLikeRock> R+
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37[00:13:00] <teraflops> so much hate what a sad life
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50[00:19:13] <pingouin> see you #debian
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67[00:28:52] <zuiss1> can anyone explain how i'd add this
repo to debian?
replaced-url
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69[00:29:14] <zuiss1> it says they have a debian repo but when
i copy "deb" and that URL to my sources.list, i can't
do a succesful apt-get update
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71[00:30:04] <tables> how can i create a debian livecd?
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72[00:30:09] <tables> however i want it, with my packages and
configs, etc.
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75[00:30:38] <Anselmo> you mean just like, a portable debian
(say on a usb disk) ?
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76[00:31:01] <mephage> How can I enable VNC during debian
installation?
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77[00:31:16] <zuiss1> in #matrix
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92[00:36:38] <CoolManBs> I have a question : I am testing ready
to use virtual box of debian 8.5. However it doesnt come with sudo
installed, and the packages system does have an error in
\etc\apt\sources.list pointing to a CD-ROM drive, but without sudo I
am unable to edit the file. is there any work around for this
problem?
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94[00:38:48] <towo`> and from where you get that
"ready-to-use" vbox?
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95[00:39:04] <missmbob> use the root account/password to
install sudo
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96[00:39:16] <dvs> and to edit the sources.list
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101[00:40:45] <CoolManBs> I got it from virtualboxes org but the
packages is not configured properly and asks me for a CD-Rom every
time I try to install a new package
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103[00:41:35] <missmbob> they must've listed the root
passsword somewhere and you missed it
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104[00:41:45] <CoolManBs> i have it
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106[00:41:51] <towo`> you have what?
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107[00:41:59] <CoolManBs> i have the root pass
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108[00:42:07] <towo`> if you have the root password, why you
need sudo?
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109[00:42:13] <towo`> learn the basics!
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110[00:43:13] <dvs> I use sudo and have the root password
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113[00:44:52] <CoolManBs> i need to edit the sources.list , but
in order to do that must type "sudo gedit
\etc\apt\sources.list" if I get it correct
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114[00:45:10] <CoolManBs> otherwise it opens it read only
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116[00:45:18] <dvs> CoolManBs, not if you are root
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117[00:45:27] <missmbob> and it's / not \
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118[00:45:33] <CoolManBs> I got it
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119[00:45:38] <CoolManBs> I will try
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121[00:46:59] <CoolManBs> i am a beginner but I really forgot
the basics .. thanks for your help, and sorry for the stupid
question
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127[00:48:53] <Phanes> can i get a feel for why debian dropped
LSB?
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128[00:49:04] <Phanes> was there a public discussion where this
was decided that i can read?
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129[00:49:16] <dvs> !lsb
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130[00:49:17] <dpkg> i heard lsb is Debian is dropping LSB
support; see
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131[00:49:23] <dvs> ha
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133[00:49:47] <Phanes> thanks
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134[00:50:17] <dvs> no prob
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136[00:50:39] <atomi> is there a way to kill a background
process started using ```mybin & anotherbin``` without kill
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139[00:52:10] <dvs> bg then ^C?
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140[00:52:19] <dvs> sorry fg then ^C
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142[00:52:35] <atomi> fg
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144[00:52:36] <atomi> yeah
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145[00:52:42] <atomi> dvs, thanks
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147[00:52:47] <dvs> no prob
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148[00:52:59] * dvs must be on something
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190[01:17:27] <GI_Jack> I got a question, I have an /30 and a
/29 network assigned to be on a single router port. Both are going
to a single machine. the /29 is behind the /30 in the router's
routing table
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191[01:17:35] <GI_Jack> how do I set this up in debian
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192[01:17:49] <GI_Jack> double plus good: the /29 needs to be on
a xen bridge
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206[01:25:10] <mingdao> I have noticed this message a few times,
but none of my internet searches have led to a fix:
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207[01:25:15] <mingdao> Only hits I did see have user root in
similar issue, and no fix other than some guy reinstalling his
system a few times.
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208[01:25:39] <Barabacha> Hello, does anyone here use Debian
exclusively in text mode? without GUI? any tips for a noob? for
example I've been using Lynx but it renders everything as plain
text on black background, not even different background colors for
different sections of a webpage, is there a better web browser?
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212[01:28:05] <n4dir> elinks is sure more intuitive, but i
wouldn't know if you can set colors
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219[01:31:16] <n4dir> you might wanna look at something like
"screen" or "vtwm" or "tmux" to split
the screen
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223[01:32:36] <n4dir> for more you would need to say more
detailed what you need help with, Barabacha
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224[01:33:46] <n4dir> ah, gpm for a mouse like thing in tty.
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225[01:34:52] <Barabacha> n4dir: most importantly - is it a good
idea to use Linux in text mode? I decided to use text mode because I
figured that would be the best way to learn command lines but seeing
how little progress I made over past 2 days I'm not so sure
about it anymore
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227[01:35:24] <Barabacha> for example, it took me 2 days to
figure out copying and pasting, that I need to install GUI screen
and the use 5 different hotkeys to make it work heh
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228[01:35:52] <n4dir> Doing as much as possible in a
terminal-emulator still in X, mainly filemanaging stuff, should be
enough. imho
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230[01:37:02] <n4dir> otoh: if being forced to use the cli, i
tend to search more ...
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231[01:38:01] <n4dir> 2 days is not that much. Give yourself
more time. If it annoys you too much: imho you can learn a lot cli
stuff even when using the GUI for stuff where it makes sense
(webbrowsing being the obvious )
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235[01:39:31] <n4dir> but don't take my word for it. just a
random guy from the internet with "opinions".
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247[01:45:19] <n4dir> i like the application "tilda" a
lot. It is a drop-down terminal emulator, so i have it running all
the time, no matter on which desktop i am, i hit F1 and got access
to the terminal.
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248[01:45:42] <bazhang> ,v guake
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249[01:45:43] <judd> Package: guake on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3-3;
jessie: 0.4.4-1; stretch: 0.8.8-1; sid: 0.8.8-1
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250[01:46:05] <n4dir> just wanted to say that there are
different ones of that kind :-)
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251[01:46:16] <bazhang> yep
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252[01:46:43] <n4dir> bazhang: but guake you can use with any
terminal-emulator? i recall that correct?
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254[01:47:11] <bazhang> well, it's gtk
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255[01:47:22] <n4dir> apt-cache show doesn't seem to
confirm that ...
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256[01:47:35] <bazhang> iirc there is a terminator or the like
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261[01:49:02] <n4dir> anyway: i think something like that makes
more sense than going tty only (makes more sense: is more
comfortable)
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263[01:49:25] <bazhang> agreed
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265[01:51:31] <n4dir> Barabacha: if you still want to go further
down the rabbit hole, in this thread a few framebuffer apps are
mentioned:
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276[01:57:46] <HaGGaRx> hey
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277[01:58:43] <Barabacha> n4dir: did you bind 'tilda'
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279[01:59:13] <n4dir> it is default, and it sucks a lot (because
many apps use F1 for help, duh). But i never change it, probably too
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283[02:00:40] <n4dir> when running it first time i get a config
window, i make it full screen, change the fontsize and the font
color, but that's about it. Might be guake is better, i
don't know
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291[02:04:31] <n4dir> sneaking in #bash might be a good idea
too. Often usage of cli tools is mentioned there (and more often the
topics are way beyond my head ... :-) )
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294[02:05:46] <HaGGaRx> ole ho aq
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295[02:06:23] <awal1> guake is better :P
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297[02:06:42] <awal1> more stable, mature and featured
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298[02:07:11] <awal1> yeahconsole is also fine
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299[02:07:30] <n4dir> ah, yeahconsole. that one i forgot.
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300[02:07:42] <bazhang> yeahconsole is the actual name?
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301[02:07:50] <awal1> yeah
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302[02:07:54] <bazhang> heh
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303[02:08:13] <n4dir> i seem to have heard that newer versions
of xfce4-terminal have the drop-down option too, but i sure
couldn't figure it out
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305[02:08:45] <aging> anyway to get xrandr to recognize VGA
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307[02:09:00] <awal1> guake is nº 1 :P
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308[02:09:49] <HaGGaRx> hello aq cocuklari hello babazin amina
koyum
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310[02:10:43] <abrotman> HaGGaRx: do you need help wtih Debian?
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313[02:11:03] <HaGGaRx> android
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324[02:14:10] <aging> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
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344[02:25:01] <HaGGaRx> ol3 hoooooooo
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345[02:25:02] <HaGGaRx> aq
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346[02:25:08] <HaGGaRx> yarraagim
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348[02:25:10] <HaGGaRx> ne var
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349[02:25:11] <HaGGaRx> aq
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350[02:25:12] <HaGGaRx> aq
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355[02:27:32] <abrotman> HaGGaRx: this is not a social channel,
this channel is for Debian support
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420[03:15:01] <ambient> My CPU is running hot and I am not sure
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626[05:14:23] <swulf--> I keep getting a 502 error when trying
to fetch this package:
replaced-url
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627[05:14:33] <swulf--> I can see it in the directory listing,
and other .deb files work... but not that one
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628[05:15:10] <aging> w/apt-get?
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630[05:15:51] <swulf--> aging: both apt get and directly in
browser fail
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632[05:16:20] <swulf--> If I visit
replaced-url
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633[05:18:37] <aging> unable to locate
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634[05:18:44] <aging> couldnt find any package
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637[05:19:17] <swulf--> python2.7-minimal_2.7.13-1_amd64.deb
2016-12-18 23:58 1.3M
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638[05:19:23] <swulf--> it's certainly listed
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641[05:19:50] <aging> oops i did a - where it should be a _
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642[05:19:59] <aging> don't listen to me ;)
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644[05:20:45] <swulf--> wtffff it's happening on other
mirrors too
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645[05:20:53] <swulf--> maybe Privoxy is messing with me
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648[05:22:46] <aging> apt-get install python2.7 doesnt work, or
is that not exactly what u need?
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659[05:29:34] <swulf--> aging, if you try wget on that url above
does it work for you?
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661[05:31:53] <aging> 1 min
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662[05:32:33] <swulf-->
replaced-url
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663[05:33:03] <aging> i got the index.html =)
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664[05:33:43] <swulf--> weird. it works from my linode..
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665[05:34:32] <aging> Firefox can't find the file at
/home/dk/libpython2.7-minimal_2.7.9-2+deb8u1_amd64.deb.
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666[05:34:36] <aging> oops
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667[05:34:38] <aging> hah
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668[05:35:41] <aging> this downloads
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669[05:35:43] <aging>
replaced-url
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670[05:35:54] <aging> want me to dl it and send to u?
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672[05:36:17] <swulf--> i'm able to get it from my linode
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673[05:36:19] <swulf--> thanks though
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674[05:36:28] <swulf--> I think thailand's web filter is
catching it
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675[05:37:08] <aging> oooh thailand, thats where you are?
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676[05:37:29] <aging> or your proxy
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677[05:38:40] <swulf--> i disabled my proxy, so its definitely
not it
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678[05:39:03] <aging> u pay for a proxy?
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688[05:45:03] <bsima_> i can't install Python 3 because pip
requires SSL/TLS and for some reason it's broken on my machine.
Everything with apt seems good, so (and this is such a dumb question
but I have to start from basics) when I install libssl-dev, where
does it go?
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where *should* it go?
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705[05:59:26] <bsima_> pyenv is basically just a shell script
that downloads and compiles python
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706[05:59:47] <Rusty1_> why not virtualenv ?
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707[06:00:14] <bsima_> _shrug_ I like pyenv, it fits my needs
better
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708[06:00:34] <bsima_> if this doesn't work I guess
I'll take the plunge and switch to virtualenv
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710[06:00:52] <Rusty1_> there is ##python channel , whilst you
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712[06:01:26] <bsima_> I figured this was an issue with apt or
something, so debian folk might have better insight. But I'll
check there too, thanks
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718[06:02:59] <Rusty1_> libssl-dev is installed?
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720[06:03:06] <bsima_> yeah
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721[06:04:18] <bsima_> so is build-essential
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724[06:08:30] <Rusty1_> apt-file , or in synaptic right click
libssl-dev , properties , installed files
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725[06:10:52] <bsima_> you mean apt-cache? I did "apt-cache
showsrc libssl-dev" and it lists all the files in the package
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726[06:11:01] <bsima_> and a bunch other stuff
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734[06:16:38] <tharkun> !ssb
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735[06:16:38] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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736[06:16:54] <tharkun> If I want to package ^^ how do I do
that?
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737[06:16:59] <aegis> Is Debian the best?
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738[06:17:25] <tharkun> aegis: Asking that on #debian isn't
the answer a bit biased ;P
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743[06:21:16] * aging knows Debian is the best.
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753[06:29:51] <hexadecimal> aging: what do you like in Debian?
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754[06:30:04] <aging> hexadecimal everything
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755[06:30:14] <aging> minimal cpu usage
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756[06:30:37] <aging> the programs/apps
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759[06:30:41] <aging> terminal
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761[06:30:56] <hexadecimal> nice
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762[06:30:57] <aging> text based configs
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763[06:31:02] <aging> =]
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765[06:31:39] <aging> the irc client =p
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766[06:31:42] <aging> y
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767[06:31:59] <hexadecimal> I'll ask you again in 10 years
if we are still alive
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768[06:32:05] <aging> ok cool
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769[06:32:48] <aging> i just installed debian about 2 wks ago
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777[06:36:43] <hexadecimal> oh and I heard that 8.7 is out the
14/01? That's correct?
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784[06:43:08] <aging> hexadecimal me? i dunno =/
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799[06:57:46] <jasabella> hi :) how do i get a wiki page updated
on wiki.debian.org?
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800[07:00:18] <somiaj> jasabella: In theory you can update it
yourself, though I don't think there is automatic account
creation so you'll have to contact someone (this info I think
is on the wiki)
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804[07:01:36] <jasabella> just wanted to add a row to this
table, not much:
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813[07:10:10] <somiaj> jasabella:
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815[07:10:29] <jasabella> yeah
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816[07:10:33] <jasabella> th
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817[07:10:34] <jasabella> x
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819[07:11:52] <somiaj> jasabella: you also shoudln't cross
post questions on different channels/networks.
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821[07:13:03] <jasabella> ok
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824[07:17:42] <aging> adduser <name> audio
kjaweghbvrkagwkcgr!
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827[07:19:03] <hexadecimal> what are you doing aging?
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828[07:19:30] <somiaj> sounds like they figured out they needed
the audio group for sound.
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829[07:19:41] <aging> yap
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830[07:19:51] <aging> so simple
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844[07:29:53] <aging> hexadecimal what are you doing?
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846[07:30:20] <xar-> is there a way to ask systemd for the value
of all directives that are currently loaded?
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850[07:32:33] <somiaj> xar-: systemd status
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851[07:32:40] <somiaj> xar-: arg, systemctl status
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852[07:33:03] <somiaj> xar-: you can also just run systemctl for
the list of all of them.
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870[07:49:13] <seanrdev> It might be a stupid question but
I've been surprised before however is there a way to take 2 1tb
drives and store a file as big as 1.5tb on them without modifying
the file?
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872[07:51:11] <grawity> set up disk spanning, e.g. via LVM or
btrfs or zfs
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874[07:51:53] <seanrdev> lol I thought it was a stupid question
to ask but happy I did
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877[07:57:02] <xar-> thanks for responding somiaj
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878[07:57:20] <xar-> however, what I was looking for was
`systemctl show --all <unit>`
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879[07:58:19] <xar-> I probably should have been more specific,
but systemd is... what's a polite way to say this, ridiculous?
still learning so... *shrug*
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882[07:59:00] <somiaj> xar-: I like it, just new tools to get
use to.
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883[07:59:19] <somiaj> xar-: but I haven't ran it in a
situation it didn't just work and once you get more use to
systemctl you can get a lot of info.
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896[08:05:26] <Krystione9> The Outrageous Racist Hypocrisy of
Israel and World Zionism (258,898 views)
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903[08:08:31] <afx_> Hello !There are times Xorg server takes
too long to start . I am using gnome with Adwaita which seems broken
when this happens like this
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906[08:09:49] <TereseSi> They seek a tribal Zionist supremacy
over the media, politics, power of every nation on earth. They
don't have the right to steal trillions with the Federal
Reserve Bank, and the IMF, and control the value of the currency
that's in your pocket, and bomb your nation if it dares to
resist... and
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911[08:11:33] <seanrdev> So my system crashes every once in a
while with an error like....
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912[08:11:36] <seanrdev> (device nvme0n1p2):
__ext4_get_inode_loc:4009: inode #3149723: block 12583193: comm
polkitd: unable to read itable block
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914[08:12:40] <seanrdev> googling I see it's a hard drive
failure for most. What utilities and logs can I use to find out some
more information.
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916[08:14:23] <seanrdev> I went to /var/log/ and used the
command find /var/log -exec cat {} \; | grep -i 'unable to
read' and there were no logs that displayed that or any of the
other on screen errors that I had seen.
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917[08:15:00] <grawity> those usually go to dmesg first, and
from there to /var/log/kernel, IIRC
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918[08:15:19] <ragedragon> seanrdev, mount the affected
partition or disk in read only, perform a dump for backup with dd
with ignore errors options
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920[08:15:26] <ragedragon> then perform a fsck
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921[08:15:31] <ragedragon> with repair options
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923[08:15:39] <ragedragon> then pray
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925[08:16:16] <seanrdev> ragedragon: Before I do this let me
inform you that this drive is a samsung 950 m.2 ssd drive.
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926[08:16:40] <seanrdev> Should I proceed?
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927[08:17:02] <ragedragon> oh ok i see
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928[08:17:30] <seanrdev> Sorry I should have stated that in the
beginning.
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930[08:18:39] <ragedragon> if it is a system file error, fsck is
your friend
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931[08:18:57] <ragedragon> if it is hw as you described us,
check maybe with smartctrl
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932[08:19:49] <ragedragon> but before perform a full dump with
dd over the network or usb drive
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933[08:20:04] <ragedragon> with read only remount option
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934[08:21:03] <seanrdev> Also my screen went black then came up
without the bottom panel and a popup box where the readable text
just shows up as squares. I had to press ctrl alt f2 and thats where
I saw the error message. I think that is all the info I have.
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935[08:21:40] <ragedragon> ragedragon, use maybe a live usb
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936[08:21:45] <ragedragon> to boot from an other device
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937[08:21:53] <seanrdev> ok
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Zionism is a hypocritical tribal, racist entity that not only
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972[08:39:30] <yellow> <--- sits waiting to drop a truth
bomb.
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975[08:40:35] <inch> Israel gave us Trimslice which never got
proper gpu hw acceleration for desktop linux. And now their Utilite2
is stuck with kernel 3.4.
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978[08:40:54] <inch> :-)
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982[08:42:15] <micw> hi
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985[08:42:41] <micw> on stretch, ansible reports the wrong
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986[08:42:53] <micw> it gets the version from /etc/os-release
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987[08:43:13] <micw> on jessie it's
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
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988[08:43:22] <micw> on stretch it's
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid"
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989[08:43:37] <micw> will the change on release?
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990[08:43:47] <micw> to "... 9 (stretch)"
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991[08:43:48] <grawity> why is it getting the version out of
PRETTY_NAME and not out of VERSION_ID
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992[08:44:07] <grawity> the PRETTY_NAME is explicitly stated to
be for display and *not* machine parsing
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993[08:44:12] <micw> grawity, no idea but version_id is also not
set in stretch
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999[08:46:55] <micw> will the file change on release?
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1002[08:47:21] <micw> is it normal that the dev version does not
contain a version number?
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1004[08:47:30] <micw> or should i file a bug?
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1007[08:50:06] <micw> does the dev version even has a version
number?
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1011[08:51:14] <grawity> stretch does, but sid doesn't
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1012[08:51:22] <grawity> no, I don't know why it's
called "stretch/sid"
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1013[08:52:10] <micw> i installed via stretch installer (alpha 8
i think)
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1015[08:53:04] <micw> Package: base-files
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1016[08:53:04] <micw> Version: 9.7
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1022[08:54:28] <micw> seems to be the same for testing+unstable
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1023[08:54:45] <micw> how does stretch and sid relate to testing
and unstable?
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1025[08:54:56] <Tufish> This video exposes how Israel and World
Zionism is a hypocritical tribal, racist entity that not only
oppresses the Palestinians, but seeks control of the whole world.
(258,898 views, 90% likes)
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1026[08:55:02] <micw> sid always refers to the latest unstable,
right?
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1029[08:55:13] <grawity> testing (currently: stretch) is the next
debian version in works
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1030[08:55:22] <grawity> unstable (sid) is ... not quite sure
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1043[08:59:11] <Iota> Good morning, world!
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1056[09:04:20] <jolt> Hello WORLD!
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1096[09:34:19] <jscoder> I'd like to print some ps files I
have but I'd like a header or footer that shows the filename.
I've tried evince, atril, and qpdf none seem to support this,
perhaps there is a simple way I can add the header/footer to the
file itself using a commandline?
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1148[09:55:28] <tavis> xrandr can't rotate screen
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1151[09:55:39] <tavis> debian 8.6
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1157[09:57:53] <tavis> am i online or not ?
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1159[09:58:23] <Shadur> No. You're in a coma and
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1160[09:58:39] <micw> ^^
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1161[09:58:41] <tavis> @_@
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1169[10:01:50] <tavis> why don't you talk
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1172[10:02:11] <darxmurf> hi all
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1173[10:02:15] <LdvX> Hello community!
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1175[10:02:27] <LdvX> Is there an url slack.com for debian ?
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1176[10:02:31] <tavis> hello ... hello world
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1181[10:04:06] <LdvX> ??
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1184[10:04:49] <darxmurf> how can I configure "Machine
Credentials" only on a NFS+Kerberos system ? I need to have an
"automatic" auth of the clients on the server as the
workstations are shared
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1187[10:05:15] <darxmurf> basically I just need to secure the NFS
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1239[10:30:43] <Beeblebrox-BSD> Hello, I have some continer/LXC
questions (using Stretch). I read somewhere that Ubuntu is
considerably faster than Deb for LXC - what's the situation on
that? Also, what is the best performing container choice?
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1242[10:32:01] <babilen> "somewhere"
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1262[10:43:56] <Evropi> Hello, is it okay to remove the packages
gnome, gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop? Are there any negative
externalities to this action?
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1263[10:44:10] <Evropi> planning to update to Debian testing for
what it's worth
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1266[10:44:26] <Evropi> but I don't want programs like
Empathy
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1269[10:44:46] <SynrG> it's always fine to remove packages
that are purely metapackages. however, in upgrades, if the deps of
the metapackages change, you won't get any of the changes
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1270[10:45:22] <Evropi> I see, thank you
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1271[10:46:13] <babilen> Removal of metapackages might also
trigger the automatic removal of their dependencies as there is,
then, "no readon" for those dependencies to be installed
anymore.
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1272[10:46:23] <babilen> *reason
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1275[10:49:02] <craigpowers> Here's a quote I found to
report to the ops:
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1313[11:06:53] <jelly> is there a LetsEncrypt client that works
well on wheezy?
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1317[11:09:16] <petn-randall> jelly: The bash one should work,
I'm guessing.
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1323[11:12:24] <jelly> which bash one?
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1332[11:17:41] <teraflops> jelly: tried certbot from
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1339[11:20:47] <petn-randall> jelly: Used to be called
letsencrypt.sh, now it's dehydrated:
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1351[11:24:12] <petn-randall> jelly: It's even in stretch
twice, for some reason.
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1358[11:26:27] <Evropi> Welp. Updating to testing did not go
well. Any idea on how to resolve this dependency resolution issue?
replaced-url
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1360[11:27:22] <Evropi> as you can see -f didn't help :/
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1367[11:28:25] <somiaj> Evropi: output of apt-cache policy and
apt-cache policy console-setup
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1375[11:31:24] <Evropi> somiaj: so if I understand correctly, I
need to set priority to 100 so it is not updated. For that matter,
is there a way to skip updating this altogether?
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1378[11:31:46] <Evropi> (as unwise as that would probably be)
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1379[11:32:23] <somiaj> what? What did you pin to 100 so it
woudn't upgrade?
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1380[11:32:40] <Evropi> nothing, this is a clean install
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1381[11:32:41] <somiaj> why do you not want to fully upgrade your
system to testing?
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1382[11:32:53] <somiaj> Also why not share the output i asked
for.
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1383[11:32:55] <Evropi> so the rest of the packages install haha
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1384[11:33:06] <Evropi> right, just a moment
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1386[11:34:18] <Evropi>
replaced-url
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1388[11:35:04] <somiaj> okay, not the output of 'apt-get
dist-upgrade'
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1390[11:35:54] <Evropi>
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1391[11:35:55] <somiaj> and it is preferable you use
'stretch' in your sources.list instead of testing.
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1392[11:36:35] <somiaj> Evropi: okay, 'apt-cache policy
systemd udev'
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1396[11:37:47] <Evropi> somiaj:
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1397[11:38:09] <somiaj> ,v systemd
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1398[11:38:10] <judd> Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy:
44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports:
204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u5; jessie-backports:
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1403[11:38:48] <somiaj> Evropi: for some reason your mirror is
not showing a newer version of systemd or udev in your sources which
is causing your problem.
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1404[11:38:57] <somiaj> Evropi: rerun apt-get update, then run
that apt-cache policy command again
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1409[11:40:35] <Evropi>
replaced-url
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1410[11:41:00] <Evropi> (sorry, I keep forgetting to highlight
somiaj; haven't used IRC in a year)
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1413[11:41:31] <somiaj> Evropi: I just wanted the apt-cache
policy systemd udev
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1414[11:41:40] <somiaj> Evropi: I want to see if the update made
those packages installable.
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1415[11:42:17] <Evropi> oh, my apologies:
replaced-url
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1416[11:42:36] <somiaj> Evropi: okay, they are visiable now, now
run apt-get dist-upgrade
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1417[11:43:34] <Evropi> somiaj:
replaced-url
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1418[11:44:04] <babilen> Why are you passing -f ?
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1420[11:44:21] <babilen> And what is aptitude suggesting?
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1423[11:44:45] <Evropi> because it recommends the -f
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1424[11:44:52] <Evropi> not that it did anything
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1425[11:44:54] <babilen> Also what does "apt-get install
console-setup" and "aptitude install console-setup"
give you?
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1427[11:45:38] <somiaj> Evropi: almost wonder if you should just
try another mirror, maybe your mirror is upgrading packages right
now and not giving you a complete list.
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1429[11:46:07] <somiaj> Evropi: so back to 'apt-cache policy
console-set console-setup-linux libpurple-bin libpurple0 systemd
udev'
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1431[11:46:24] <Evropi> babilen: oh, I think we're on the
right track!
replaced-url
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1432[11:46:28] <Evropi> somiaj: ^
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1434[11:48:01] <Evropi> should I try a different mirror first or
accept the solution?
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1436[11:48:04] <babilen> You could go with that .. how come you
have partially configured packages? Did you try to perform an
upgrade earlier?
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1437[11:48:23] <Evropi> yeah, which brought the system to this
sorry state
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1439[11:48:26] <babilen> You could try a different mirror ..
I'd also cycle through some of the other suggestions
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1441[11:48:59] <Pelle`> is this normal: i have 40314mb memory on
my debian box, 400042 used 271 free, shared 65 buffers 325 and
cached 38469?
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1443[11:49:35] <somiaj> !free memory
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1444[11:49:35] <dpkg> Unlike information, your computer's
memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux
tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which
speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these
caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical
memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use,
it's 'free' + 'buffers' +
'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
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1445[11:49:49] <somiaj> Pelle`: most of it is cache, completely
normal.
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1448[11:50:27] <Evropi> switching mirror (tried two) had the same
results... I think I'll go with aptitude's suggestion,
thanks
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1449[11:50:30] <Stummi> !swapwake
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1450[11:50:30] <dpkg> After hibernation, you can load back into
memory as much as possible from swap and also load files back into
the kernel's file cache to help reduce the disk thrashing that
occurs when waking up after suspend-to-disk (although this
doesn't seem to be needed with the kernels in lenny onwards):
cat `cat /proc/[0-9]*/maps | grep / | sed 's:.* /:/:' |
grep -v /dev | sort -u` > /dev/null
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1451[11:50:49] <Stummi> I think dpkg should link to
replaced-url
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1468[12:00:55] <babilen> dpkg: tell Evropi -about ssm
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1469[12:01:29] <babilen> Evropi: I'd recommend to switch
from "testing" to "stretch" in your
sources.list, add entries for "sid" and to set the default
release to "stretch"
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1471[12:02:18] <babilen> That allows apt-get/aptitude more
freedom in resolving dependencies and will allow them to come up
with better suggestions/solutions during transitions and package
removals
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1473[12:02:34] <babilen> You also might want to read
replaced-url
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1474[12:02:41] <Evropi> I see, I'll get right on that.
Currently still waiting for all the packages to install
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1475[12:02:51] <Evropi> (as per the suggestions of aptitude)
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1485[12:06:27] <Evropi> babilen: I have 135 further updates. To
be clear, apt will prefer Stretch to Sid when looking for updates,
right?
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1486[12:06:45] <Evropi> (135 since adding a sid line that is
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1488[12:07:17] <n4dir> No, apt won't do that on it's
own
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1490[12:07:24] <n4dir> dpkg mtu
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1491[12:07:24] <dpkg> The Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) is the
size of the largest packet a network protocol can transmit;
tracepath (iputils-tracepath package) can find out about it. An
interface's MTU can be set in /etc/network/interfaces for
static interfaces only; for DHCP, use "supersede interface-mtu
X" in an interface block within /etc/dhcp{,3}/dhclient.conf
(Debian bug #294044). The MTU can also be given as an option to
<pppd> (man 8 pppd).
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1492[12:07:28] <n4dir> damn it
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1493[12:07:34] <n4dir> dpkg tum
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1494[12:07:35] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
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1498[12:08:23] <babilen> Evropi: Did you also set the default
release to "sid" as in:
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1499[12:08:27] <babilen> dpkg: ssm
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1500[12:08:27] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"stretch";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security stretch lines and change one
set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to
install foo from sid rather than stretch as usual. WARNING to
SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set
Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this
setup to track <stretch> after its release.
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1501[12:08:37] <babilen> Err .. set it to stretch naturally :)
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1502[12:09:06] <babilen> Evropi: Could you paste your
sources.list and /etc/apt/apt.conf to
replaced-url
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1505[12:10:44] <Evropi> babilen: I did, it looks like this now
replaced-url
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1510[12:12:01] <babilen> Evropi: Okay, that looks fine. You
could, naturally, switch back to Greek mirrors. And you set the
default release to "stretch" ?
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1513[12:13:12] <Evropi> woops... I didn't
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1514[12:13:17] <Evropi> so I'm on sid now, haha
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1515[12:13:51] <babilen> Why did you upgrade?
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1516[12:13:53] <Evropi> I'll go do that, hopefully testing
will catch up soon so I won't have dep issues
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1517[12:13:59] <babilen> *sigh*
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1521[12:16:08] <Evropi> rebooting, here goes nothing
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for help with the network
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1562[12:44:39] <utopiah> ok... something is wrong. passwd only
accept 1 character
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1585[12:55:54] <utopiah> debsums doesn't complain
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1587[12:56:28] <n4dir> is this your diary or do you want help,
utopiah?
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1588[12:57:39] <utopiah> please help n4dir why is passwd showing
a different behavior than before?
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1589[12:57:59] <utopiah> I'm going through the steps I think
would help so that you also see what I tried
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1625[13:08:53] <utopiah> reinstalling the passwd package
didn't help, it works as expected for a normal user, not for
root
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1667[13:27:42] <rabbel> Hi guys, I have some questions concerning
the debian NTP pool (*.debian.pool.ntp.org). I'd like to send
an email to a mailing list, should I go for a debian users mailing
list or an ntp.org mailing list ?
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1737[14:05:14] <aprendiz> hi all. I have configured a server with
LVM encrypted ¿how can I avoid asked me each time it is
booted?
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1743[14:06:00] <tx> aprendiz: it's locked every time
it's powered off
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1744[14:06:07] <tx> the password is the key to start decrypting
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1746[14:06:23] <tx> there's no alternative unless you have
something like a fingerprint reader or smart card
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1747[14:07:20] <flugger> kind of the whole point of LVM
encryption actually.
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1748[14:08:12] <aprendiz> tx, but It is a productive server, I
need that it is rebooted starts working
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1749[14:08:35] <tx> :\
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1750[14:08:39] <tx> u dum
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1751[14:09:01] <tx> what you will need to do
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1753[14:09:15] <tx> is put your DATA (not OS!) on another LVM
volume or physial disk
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1754[14:09:25] <tx> and then when the OS has booted, ssh in and
decrypt the volume
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1757[14:10:32] <tx> Otherwise, find encryption at an application
level
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1760[14:10:58] <tx> but automatically decrypting on boot kinda
defeats the purpose of the encryption
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1763[14:11:57] <aprendiz> tx, I wanted to encrypt all the disk
with OS included for avoiding someone can examine logs and othe
files.
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1764[14:12:07] <tx> cool!
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1765[14:12:18] <tx> If it was to happen automatically and someone
stole your disk
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1766[14:12:22] <tx> or all the data on it
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1767[14:12:30] <tx> wouldn't automatically decrypting it
(entering the password)
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1768[14:12:35] <tx> defeat the purpose of the encryption?
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1769[14:12:43] <petn-randall> aprendiz: You can add a key via the
command line, but as everyone else said, it defeats the purpose. The
only use case I can think of is that you temporarily want to
deactivate the password check so other's can use it that have
bad memory.
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1772[14:13:23] <petn-randall> s/command line/crypttab/
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1774[14:14:17] <aprendiz> tx, yes, but then they need to
authenticate. I want a solution for avoid someone can examine the
disks but I don´t care if they boot the OS because they need
login.
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1776[14:14:37] <tx> Elaborate on 'examine the disks'
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1777[14:14:39] <tx> how do you mean?
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1778[14:14:48] <tx> Plug the disk into another machine
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1779[14:14:49] <tx> ?
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1781[14:15:49] <dTal> I'm curious as to the threat model
here - the only reason to encrypt the disk is if you're afraid
someone will steal it. That's reasonable for a laptop, but most
production servers are well physically-secured
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1785[14:16:17] <tx> Might be a SMB server.
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1786[14:16:19] <tx> / NAS box.
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1787[14:16:35] <dTal> and if Bob Q. Random has physical access to
your production server you're hosed anyway
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1788[14:16:45] <petn-randall> dTal: You ever been to a colo?
Someone could still steal disks from a locked rack with little work.
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1789[14:16:59] <aprendiz> tx, with a live cd for example. I want
to avoid that type of things, but if someone boot the OS is not
important because he would need login.
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1790[14:17:21] * tx sighs.
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1791[14:17:24] <babilen> aprendiz: You could configure the box in
such a way that it spawns a SSH server in the initrd that allows you
to enter the passphrase
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1793[14:17:39] <dTal> never a big colo, but a fair few small
scale outfits and all of them had several levels of locked doors,
and the cabinets themselves locked too
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1795[14:18:11] <babilen> aprendiz: Look into dropbear
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1797[14:18:36] <petn-randall> aprendiz: If you give the key to
the OS for it to unlock, you also give that anyone with physical
access to the machine. Any login can easily be overcome by just boot
a live system and taking the key from the enencrypted disk.
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1799[14:18:45] <petn-randall> s/enencrypted/unencrypted/
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1800[14:19:01] <aprendiz> dtal, yes, you right. I am in paranoid
mode because the data are very confidencial.
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1802[14:19:23] <tx> you may as well just rot13 all your data
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1803[14:19:30] <tx> it's just as effective.
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1804[14:19:38] <babilen> petn-randall: We deployed some systems
with dropbear that allow customers to SSH into the box to enter
their key
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1807[14:19:49] <dTal> the only solution I can think of is if the
server requests a decryption key from a different server in a
different physical location on boot
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1810[14:19:58] <babilen> That way you don't have to hardcode
the key anywhere
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1811[14:20:06] <dTal> then if you have a breach you configure the
second server to refuse requests
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1812[14:20:09] <tx> ooh, that's a nice one
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1815[14:21:00] <petn-randall> babilen: Same here for my Hetzner
server.
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1816[14:21:28] <petn-randall> babilen: I just use two different
hostnames so the SSH keys don't clash.
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1817[14:23:13] <aprendiz> tx, what do you mean when you say
"[14:19] <tx> you may as well just rot13 all your
data"
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1820[14:24:11] <petn-randall> aprendiz: "If you put the key
or password to decrypt the data partition on your unencrypted OS
partition, you might as well not encrypt at all."
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1822[14:24:56] <mingdao> My internet searches about this have not
turned up a fix:
replaced-url
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1823[14:25:04] <petn-randall> aprendiz: rot13 is a crappy
obfuscation scheme for text written in latin letters. Just shift
every letter 13 down the alphabet. Do it again to get the cleartext.
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1825[14:25:29] <mingdao> One person "fixed" it by
reinstalling his OS, several times. His "user" was also
root and not '_apt"
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1827[14:26:12] <DeaDSouL> hi, is there any tool in jessie repo
that manages virtualbox in web ?
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1829[14:26:37] <petn-randall> mingdao: Welcome to beta-testing
stretch. Support for it is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net.
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1831[14:26:40] <petn-randall> !debian-next
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1832[14:26:41] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1833[14:26:43] <petn-randall> mingdao: ^^^
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1836[14:27:14] <FaTony> hi, how can I set which make target gets
built when invoking debuild?
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1837[14:27:15] <mingdao> petn-randall: jessie != stretch
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1841[14:27:46] <mingdao> oh, well, that DOES say stretch
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1842[14:27:52] <petn-randall> mingdao: Your paste shows that
you're running stretch.
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1844[14:28:33] <mingdao> petn-randall: it was installed as
stretch, but changed to jessie...lemesee what has changed
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1848[14:28:56] <n4dir> mingdao: huh?
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1849[14:29:00] <themill> also /etc/apt/trusted.gpg doesn't
exist in stretch and the user _apt doesn't exist in jessie
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1855[14:30:59] <petn-randall> mingdao: You can't downgrade
like that.
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1859[14:31:02] <petn-randall> !downgrade
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1860[14:31:02] <aprendiz> dTal: For a farm of servers the use of
a server for the keys is a great idea because I you for example
upgrad 40 servers it is a loss of time to enter the passphrase 40
times
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1861[14:31:02] <dpkg> Downgrading is not, nor will ever be
supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that
can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support
upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try:
"dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install
package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to
get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>,
<unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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1863[14:31:18] <jelly> mmm, I do seem to have an uid=157(_apt)
gid=65534(nogroup) on a jessie system with a jessie apt
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1864[14:31:23] <petn-randall> aprendiz: There's a tool for
that, let me look it up.
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1867[14:32:15] <themill> jelly: I created one so that apt inside
sbuild complained less
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1869[14:32:41] <jelly> I'm pretty sure I wouldn't
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1870[14:32:45] <mingdao> petn-randall: yes, well, is there any
way to go from stretch to jessie w/out a fresh install?
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1871[14:32:54] <n4dir> no
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1872[14:33:08] <jelly> and I usually only have older chroots to
build stuff in here at work, not newer
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1873[14:33:08] <mingdao> whokay
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1874[14:33:38] <jelly> but possibly I tested a newer apt at some
point, then went back
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1875[14:33:39] <petn-randall> mingdao: No, you have to reinstall.
There's no downgrade path.
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1876[14:34:20] <mingdao> petn-randall: is there a way to list
installed software? such as in Gentoo you could save
/var/lib/portage/world to know all the pkgs you installed
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1878[14:34:48] <petn-randall> mingdao: 'dpkg -l' or
'dpkg --get-selections'
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1881[14:35:09] <themill> mingdao: of course you could just stick
with stretch if that suits your needs
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1883[14:36:25] <mingdao> themill: atm I can give the time to a
stretch install; maybe once I get used to Debian again, and have
more time
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1884[14:37:14] <mingdao> what do the deinstall entries indicate
in 'dpkg --get-selections' ?
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1885[14:37:38] <aprendiz> petn-randall: I would be great.
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1887[14:37:48] <mingdao> nvm... man dpkg lists it
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1893[14:40:51] <CryptoSiD> is the dhcp6 client broken on debian
stretch?
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1895[14:41:09] <CryptoSiD> I check my router logs, it assign an
ip to my client, but the client never get an ip
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1897[14:41:16] <tx> #debian-next @ oftc might know
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1900[14:41:45] <tx> I haven't had any issues though.
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1901[14:41:55] <CryptoSiD> Jan 4 08:41:17 Debian dhclient[3757]:
XMT: Release on enp2s11, interval 920ms.
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1902[14:41:55] <CryptoSiD> Jan 4 08:41:18 Debian dhclient[3757]:
XMT: Release on enp2s11, interval 1930ms.
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1903[14:41:57] <CryptoSiD> all i see is that
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1906[14:42:05] <CryptoSiD> but the interface never get an ip
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1907[14:42:17] <tx> is there even an ipv6 dhcp server running
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1909[14:42:34] <CryptoSiD> as i said, i see the logs in my router
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1911[14:42:41] <CryptoSiD> Advertise NA: address
2001:470:1f07:26c:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaa3 to client with duid
00:01:00:01:1f:dd:7d:71:00:d0:11:02:2d:21 iaid = 285355297 static
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1912[14:42:55] <CryptoSiD> but the interface never have an ipv6.
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1913[14:42:58] <CryptoSiD> on the client
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1917[14:43:14] <CryptoSiD> ifup reply with: RTNETLINK answers:
Cannot assign requested address
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1920[14:43:37] <petn-randall> !debian-next
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1921[14:43:38] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1922[14:43:45] <petn-randall> CryptoSiD: Please ask in the
correct channel. ^^^
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1923[14:43:58] <CryptoSiD> yeah well... gotta connect to another
network just for that
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1927[14:44:58] <tx> ##networking might be okay too
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1929[14:46:07] <CryptoSiD> why isn'T that channel on
freenode:D
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1930[14:46:19] <tx> shenanigans.
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1932[14:46:38] <petn-randall> aprendiz: kxd/kxc are something you
might want to look into.
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1934[14:47:30] <CryptoSiD> will ifup ever timeout? i rebooted my
system and now it's not booting cause ifup is stuck at
"RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address"
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1936[14:47:56] <CryptoSiD> i have another interface that is up
but sshd wont start cause ifup is stuck..
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1937[14:47:57] <aprendiz> petn-randall: Thank you so
much.ç
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1939[14:48:08] <petn-randall> CryptoSiD: You're still asking
in the wrong channel ...
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1940[14:48:22] <tx> Suddenly he is using jessie. :)
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1941[14:48:48] <CryptoSiD> im asking about ifup.
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1942[14:49:20] <petn-randall> CryptoSiD: It's still stretch,
no matter how you turn it.
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1944[14:49:53] <petn-randall> CryptoSiD: Asking in the correct
channel will greatly increase your chances of getting a correct
answer.
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1946[14:50:32] <aprendiz> petn-randall: That exactly what I was
asking for in order to avoid interactive passphrase
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1966[14:57:47] <CryptoSiD> [08:57:13] * Connecting to
irc.oftc.net (6667)
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1967[14:57:47] <CryptoSiD> -
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1968[14:57:47] <CryptoSiD> [08:57:34] * Unable to connect to
server (Connection timed out)
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2037[15:17:28] <ws2k3>
replaced-url
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2041[15:19:32] <jelly> ws2k3: sure
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2043[15:19:49] <bhanu_> hello
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2045[15:20:28] <bhanu_> how to port forward in debian?
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2046[15:20:34] <avian> ws2k3, possible but unlikely. This is a 4
year old bug report against kernel 3.2
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2048[15:21:27] <ws2k3> avian well i think th bug is still in
debian 7
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2050[15:21:56] <tx> collect data to support your claim then
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2051[15:22:04] <tx> debian 7 is oldstable though
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2052[15:22:11] <ws2k3> avian im on debian 7 with around 70
machines and after a while ipv6 stops working so i went searching
and i noticed my routing table size keeps growing and growing
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2054[15:22:49] <ws2k3> 25329 /proc/net/ipv6_route and its still
growing
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2057[15:24:36] <avian> ws2k3, ah sorry. I thought you are talking
about latest stable. Debian 7 indeed shipped with kernel 3.2.
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2058[15:25:04] <sruli> i want to run a script each time apt
finishes installing updates, i tried apt post success hooks but its
not working, dpkg post success runs the script after each package is
installed and i dont want that, i only want it to run when all is
finished, how can i go about this?
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2060[15:25:10] <lokke2> exit
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2063[15:26:20] <ws2k3> avian 3.2.0-4-amd64 im running
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2066[15:27:02] <yasu_> hello
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2067[15:27:13] <yasu_> any debian expert here
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2068[15:27:34] <dvs> nope
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2070[15:28:01] <tx> none
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2071[15:28:04] <tx> this is for gentoo support.
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2072[15:28:10] <dvs> ha
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2077[15:29:11] <petn-randall> yasu_: Feel free to ask your
question. Here's a hint:
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2078[15:29:12] <petn-randall> !ask
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2079[15:29:12] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2080[15:29:29] <ws2k3> and how ipv6 is broken cause my routing
table is full
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2081[15:29:33] <ws2k3> now*
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2083[15:30:27] <yasu_> i want server image
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2084[15:30:57] <ws2k3> yasu_ debian does not have a server or
desktop image like ubuntu does
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2085[15:31:12] <yasu_> what it has
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2086[15:31:14] <yasu_> then
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2087[15:31:21] <yasu_> i want kernel only
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2089[15:31:35] <ws2k3> yasu_ just one image for debian itself,
how do you mean kernel only?
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2095[15:33:04] <petn-randall> yasu_: What do you need Debian then
for, if you only want a kernel?
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2100[15:34:15] <yasu_> ok
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2101[15:34:30] <yasu_> im sorry
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2108[15:35:58] <petn-randall> yasu_: No need to be sorry,
I'm just trying to understand what your use case is.
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2109[15:36:15] <jelly> !wayttd yasu_
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2110[15:36:16] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do, yasu_?
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2111[15:36:23] <jelly> !goal
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2112[15:36:24] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2115[15:37:04] <yasu_> is there any hackers channel
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2118[15:37:18] <yasu_> i wana use debian for hacking
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2120[15:37:53] <ksft> and what do you mean by that?
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2121[15:37:57] <brimstone> i'm having problems with java and
on this pax kernel. is there a way to run paxctl when openjdk is
installed, before ca-certificates-java's postinst tries to call
java?
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2122[15:38:09] <DeaDSouL> how to execute a command as another
user? using `su` ?
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2123[15:38:23] <Stummi> su or sudo
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2126[15:39:28] <DeaDSouL> Stummi: is it like this: `su vboxuser
vboxwebserv` ?
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2127[15:40:16] <ksft> try `man su`?
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2129[15:40:26] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: su comes with an
excellent man page.
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2135[15:43:02] <sruli> i want to run a script each time apt
finishes installing updates, i tried apt post success hooks but its
not working, dpkg post success runs the script after each package is
installed and i dont want that, i only want it to run when all is
finished, how can i go about this?
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2138[15:43:44] <petn-randall> sruli: What do you want to achieve?
There might be a better tool for that.
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2143[15:45:25] <sruli> petn-randall: i set my kernel to hold
updates, i only want to update kernel a month after release, so i
wrote a bash script for that and want to hook it to update-manager
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2147[15:46:15] <petn-randall> sruli: So you want to avoid any
regressions through kernel security updates?
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2148[15:46:59] <sruli> petn-randall: i have few reasons why i
want to wait a month before updating kernel
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2153[15:47:39] <petn-randall> sruli: One easy way is to just not
reboot until a month later. Is this a server?
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2157[15:48:26] <sruli> petn-randall: no its not a server, however
there are more scripts i need to run after update, i need a solution
for hooking a script to apt
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2158[15:49:06] <rdococ> @ <-- what's great about the
Debian logo is you can draw it easily in IRC
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2160[15:49:30] <tx> lol
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2163[15:50:35] <sruli> petn-randall: i tried making a wrapper for
apt-get it worked fine but not from gui update-manager
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2165[15:51:33] <jelly> ws2k3: and you have thousands of routing
table entries?
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2166[15:52:07] <ws2k3> jelly no just one default gateway further
nothing
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2167[15:52:21] <tx> I prefer ꩜.
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2170[15:52:57] <jelly> ws2k3: why do you think you're
triggering the same bug?
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2173[15:53:30] <jelly> ws2k3: what does your cat ipv6_route | wc
-l ... say?
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2174[15:53:32] <ws2k3> jelly cause my routing table size keep
growing and growing until its the routing table is full and then
ipv6 breaks
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2175[15:53:59] <jelly> that is, cat /proc/net/ipv6_route | wc -l
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2176[15:54:13] <ws2k3> 25329 /proc/net/ipv6_route and its still
growing
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2180[15:55:24] <jelly> ws2k3: best file a bug report, and/or try
the backported 3.16 kernel as a workaround
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2181[15:55:30] <jelly> ,kernels
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2182[15:55:31] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1);
jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports:
3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
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2183[15:55:44] <ws2k3> jelly i have upped the
net.ipv6.route.max_size to 8388608 and even then it breaks
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2186[15:56:00] <jelly> ws2k3: is that wc -l or wc -c ?
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2187[15:56:13] <ws2k3> jelly wc -l
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2188[15:56:26] <jelly> yeah, that doesn't look good
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2213[16:02:19] <jhutchins> ,kernels
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2214[16:02:20] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1);
jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports:
3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
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2217[16:02:45] <jhutchins> ws2k3: You could install 3.16 from
backports.
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2225[16:04:41] <ws2k3> jhutchins yeah i could do that but i would
expect this kinda of bugs not in debian
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2241[16:08:55] <jelly> ws2k3: it won't gets fixed if noone
reports it
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2243[16:09:22] <ws2k3> jelly i dont know exacly how i should file
a bug report, i have now send an email to debian-lts
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2440[17:06:20] <jusss> <jusss> mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs
./dev is same with mount -o bind /dev ./dev?
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2443[17:06:55] <jelly> jusss: nope
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2444[17:07:11] <jusss> jelly: what's the first meaning?
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2446[17:07:20] <jelly> no idea
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2447[17:07:36] <jelly> but it's definitely not the same as a
bind mount of an already populated /dev
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2448[17:07:54] <jusss> I saw it on wikipedia, but another wiki
like debian or arch or gentoo they use -o bind
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2449[17:07:58] <sh00p> i usually mount bind in chroots, it works
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2450[17:08:13] <jusss> yes, I'm too
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2451[17:08:32] <jusss> I want mount /dev into chroot env
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2452[17:08:47] <jusss> but I don't know what's the
better?
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2456[17:09:21] <jelly> jusss: did you try the first one? Does the
resulting ./dev have /dev-looking contents?
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2457[17:09:34] <jelly> I honestly do not know what it does
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2461[17:09:59] <jelly> then it might really be equivalent
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2468[17:12:45] <MasterScript> ./sc_trans: No such file or
directory on debian 8
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2469[17:13:00] <MasterScript> what libs need to install?
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2472[17:13:51] <jelly> MasterScript: what does "file
./sc_trans" sayt
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2478[17:16:05] <nintendo3DS> this bash script worked on my other
installation of debian, but when I run it on this one it says
there's a syntax error on the usage() line
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2479[17:16:07] <nintendo3DS> why would that happen
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2480[17:16:24] <jhutchins> MasterScript: Context?
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2481[17:16:27] <jhutchins> MasterScript: What did you try to do?
How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What
happened instead?
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2488[17:18:51] <MasterScript> run ./sc_trans sc_trans.conf
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2490[17:19:02] <MasterScript> shoutcast transcoder
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2491[17:19:33] <mallxs> what must i do to make ifconfig runnable
by cron ? or is there a other way to ip address of interface with in
corn ?
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2492[17:19:58] <teraflops> MasterScript: where did you grab that
./sc_trans thingy?
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2495[17:21:11] <teraflops> nintendo3DS: _this_? I only see a
screenshot
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2528[17:32:54] <noahmg123> my laptop is apparently under-clocking
when it hits low battery. It is making my laptop lag. It disappears
when I plug in. What can I do?
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2530[17:33:36] <petn-randall> noahmg123: Are you running vanilla
Debian?
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2533[17:34:23] <noahmg123> petn-randall: Close to it, Kali.
I'm asking here as their IRC channel is usually dead.
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2535[17:34:30] <petn-randall> !kali
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2536[17:34:30] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2537[17:34:33] <petn-randall> noahmg123: ^^^
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2643[18:13:35] <dp> One of my servers is failing to restart the
ssh service, and systemctl is giving me the following:
replaced-url
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2653[18:20:34] <origion> hi
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2656[18:21:02] <DeaDSouL> hi how to know which repository a
package belongs to?
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2660[18:22:50] <petn-randall> dp: I'd check the
'journalctl -u ssh', and double-check any changes you made
to the config.
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2661[18:23:24] <petn-randall> dp: If you sysprep'ed the VM,
the SSH host keys will be gone and have to be regenerated.
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2662[18:23:59] <dp> petn-randall: it's just a continual
stream of the message(s) in the paste.
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2667[18:24:57] <petn-randall> dp: Check /var/log/daemon.log and
auth.log if there are any messages regarding ssh.
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2670[18:26:33] <dp> petn-randall: auth.log suggests that the
address is already in use; but as far as I can tell, the only thing
using it is sshd...
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2674[18:27:10] <origion> hi
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2676[18:27:18] <schnabeltasse> welcom
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2677[18:27:39] <origion> i want learn linux
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2678[18:27:47] <armin> hi. i'm trying to use preseed to
answer the question about "General type of mail
configuration:" appropriately when installing postfix from a
Dockerfile. i used "postfix postfix/main_mailer_type string
Internet site" in my preseed.txt but i still get asked that
"Please select the mail server configuration type that best
meets your needs." question. anyone an idea?
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2679[18:27:47] <schnabeltasse> i am happy to hear that
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2681[18:28:22] <origion> can you help me for learn ?
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2682[18:28:49] <schnabeltasse> i am not qualified for teaching
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2683[18:28:50] <petn-randall> dp: What does 'netstat -npl |
grep :22' give you?
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2685[18:29:21] <dp> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2686[18:29:22] <schnabeltasse> just install debian, and learn
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2687[18:29:28] <schnabeltasse> learning by doing
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2688[18:29:48] <petn-randall> origion: This is a good start,
depending on your experience level:
replaced-url
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2692[18:31:26] <origion> ok, i will try ^_^
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2696[18:33:01] <schnabeltasse> main question in the beginning is,
if you have a free hard drive on computer, or if you want to keep
something else (eg windows)
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2698[18:33:28] <origion> yes
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2700[18:33:32] <schnabeltasse> partitionin must be done careful.
and yaou need to pick the correct installation medium for your
processor architecture
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2702[18:34:14] <origion> what is this ?
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2705[18:34:26] <schnabeltasse> the you just install, wich takes
some effort and knowlledge or research (good to have a seperate
internett access to research during install)
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2706[18:34:56] <schnabeltasse> partitioning is setting up
seperate areas on your harddisk
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2708[18:35:24] <origion> how !
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2709[18:35:27] <schnabeltasse> after that you have a functional
system and you start to learn everything
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2712[18:35:51] <schnabeltasse> what operating sytem are you on
now?
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2713[18:36:07] <origion> kali linux
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2714[18:37:27] <schnabeltasse> start gparted - there you see what
partions are
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2715[18:37:38] <schnabeltasse> or parted if you don't have
gparted on kali
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2716[18:38:04] <schnabeltasse> it's seperate portions of
your hard drive. do you have windows also?
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2718[18:38:22] <dp> petn-randall: any ideas as to why sshd would
suggest that it's already bound, when I'm trying to do a
restart?
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2719[18:39:16] <origion> no i have not
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2721[18:39:34] <schnabeltasse> do you have data on your harddrive
you need to keep?
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2726[18:39:45] <origion> just kali linux
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2728[18:40:07] <schnabeltasse> ok. so you have installed linux
already?
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2729[18:40:13] <schnabeltasse> on your harddrive?
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2730[18:40:22] <schnabeltasse> or is kali only running from cd?
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2734[18:41:21] <origion> on harddrive
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2739[18:42:24] <towo`> and since kali is not debian, it's
the complete wrong channel
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2740[18:42:39] <schnabeltasse> then it's good. you have
linux installed, you are online, in IRC. just use webbrowser for
internet, thunderbird for email, libre office for office.
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2742[18:42:55] <schnabeltasse> everything is solved already. or
what do you want to learn?
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2747[18:43:45] <origion> hack wifi
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2748[18:43:54] <towo`> play elsewhere
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2749[18:44:21] <towo`> you never will become a cool hacker by
installing kali
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2750[18:44:38] <origion> why?
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2752[18:44:55] <towo`> because it's not enougth
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2753[18:45:05] <schnabeltasse> because you are asking. if you
want to learn, start researching.
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2754[18:45:06] <towo`> and now go away and read some books
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2756[18:46:22] <origion> give me some book
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2757[18:46:35] <schnabeltasse> and i dont think it is possible to
hack a recent wifi encryption like WPA2. at least notr for you
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2758[18:46:41] <towo`> go playing kid
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2759[18:47:06] <schnabeltasse> search for books online
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2761[18:47:18] <toruvinn> origion, you could input
"aircrack" in google for starters.
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2762[18:47:30] <schnabeltasse> there are precise explanations and
whowtos on becoming a hacker. it takes years.
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2763[18:47:39] <toruvinn> from there, there's a lot of
reading ahead of you.
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2765[18:47:47] <n4dir> schnabeltasse: make that decades ...
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2769[18:48:04] <schnabeltasse> i guess so
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2770[18:48:10] <towo`> a real hacker would not ask such stupid
quesstions in a debian irc
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2771[18:48:17] <schnabeltasse> true
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2776[18:49:02] <mrrhq> I am planning to haxx my smartphone... in
a way. :p
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2777[18:49:02] <toruvinn> eh, no need to bash the guy like that.
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2779[18:49:25] <toruvinn> it's just that there's no
"how to become a hacker/cracker in two steps" howto.
there's only one step: learn and keep learning.
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2780[18:49:44] <origion> why you want from me play with kids ?!
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2781[18:49:58] <mrrhq> Search: Installing linux and android the
matrix way
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2783[18:50:18] <armin> towo`: so are you a *real* hacker?
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2784[18:50:22] <towo`> origion, we want you stop beeing of topic
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2786[18:50:26] <schnabeltasse> a hacker is more than an IT,
programming and networking professional. it is a specialist
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2787[18:50:27] <mrrhq> Gonna try using Debian with Android.
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2788[18:50:32] <armin> towo`: like, a serious super bad-ass elite
type hacker?
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2789[18:50:38] <towo`> armin, am i'm saying that?
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2791[18:50:51] <armin> towo`: so how do you know what kind of
questions a hacker asks?
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2793[18:51:04] <armin> towo`: damn - i thought you were one.
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2794[18:51:15] <towo`> if you think so
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2796[18:51:34] <mrrhq> Lols.
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2797[18:51:42] <schnabeltasse> it should be easy to crack wep
wifi encryption.
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2798[18:51:58] <schnabeltasse> but don't forget it might be
illegitimate and illegal.
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2801[18:52:17] <armin> i'm so 1337 i'm crapping guy
fawkes masks.
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2805[18:53:56] <mrrhq> Only CFAA makes it illegal, but it's
a very bad law in the first place.
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2806[18:54:17] <mrrhq> Along with possibly DMCA.
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2811[18:54:32] <schnabeltasse> CFAA=confederation of alcoholics
anonymous?
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2816[18:55:21] <schnabeltasse> whatever that is. it doesn't
seem a legitimate goal to crack wifi
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2818[18:55:36] <schnabeltasse> in 90 % of cases
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2820[18:56:28] <petn-randall> !ot
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2821[18:56:29] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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2824[18:56:47] <petn-randall> Please keep it on topic everyone.
Thanks.
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2826[18:57:06] <schnabeltasse> i think wpa is also crackable by
using a debian sytem and some expoits
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2829[18:57:35] <schnabeltasse> but not wpa2, i think. not from
debian. or something else.
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2834[18:58:45] <petn-randall> schnabeltasse: You can capture the
WPA2 handshake of a legitimate client and then crack it offline via
some service. It's ~100$ IIRC.
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2839[18:59:45] <n4dir> there ain't no hacker in my grandma.
as the saying is.
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2840[19:00:12] <schnabeltasse> i am not too surprised that some
professional or hacker can do that.
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2842[19:00:26] <petn-randall> That assumes using PSK, though.
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2848[19:01:11] <schnabeltasse> i am always usig psk. to be frank,
i don't like the use of wireless. i use a cable and deactivate
it, where i can.
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2849[19:01:28] <n4dir> what if the router is set to only accept
certain mac-addresses? still possible? I guess it sure is harder
(assuming it is possible at all).
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2850[19:01:29] <schnabeltasse> no door is better than a locked
door
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2851[19:01:46] <schnabeltasse> it is easy to spoof the mac adress
aint it?
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2852[19:01:49] <n4dir> otoh i really don't mind someone
borrowing my internet, as long he doesn't do nasty things
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2854[19:01:59] <n4dir> schnabeltasse: i don't know. it was a
question
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2855[19:02:23] <schnabeltasse> mac adress filtering surely
increases security. but it is spoofable.
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2856[19:02:27] <n4dir> someone used my internet. after i changed
the mac thing, it didn't happen anymore. Well: i think
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2861[19:03:10] <n4dir> would have been probably more fun to spy
on him in return, but ... well ... too much work, and not much fun
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2862[19:03:28] <schnabeltasse> i use mac adress filterin, and
deactivate dhcp mostly, if i activate wireless
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2864[19:03:47] <petn-randall> schnabeltasse: Not that any of that
would help from a security standpoint.
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2865[19:04:07] <schnabeltasse> not against an apt attacker. but
against the average neighbour.
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2868[19:04:21] <n4dir> not activating wireless at all sure helps
from a sec standpoint. imho ....
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2871[19:04:50] <petn-randall> schnabeltasse: How so? They'd
still have to know/crack your WPA2 password.
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2873[19:04:55] <afernandez_> hello how do install Cisco Any
connect for network Manager in Debian 8? I have in the drop down of
add connections openconnect which works fine from command line, But
when i configure in Network-Manager and try to connect I get the
secrets for connection whatever were not provided. Thanks in
advance.
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2874[19:05:03] <schnabeltasse> of course some of that is paranoi
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2875[19:05:08] <schnabeltasse> d
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2882[19:06:35] <teraflops> an averaged neighbour will know how to
kick your client from the ap and use your mac
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2883[19:06:48] <schnabeltasse> well i don't know how hard
that is. also ppl can enter the flat and use your cable.
deactivating dhcp and protecting your router with password might
help against that. i like to increase safety with any possible easy
measure. evenb if it is paranoid.
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2886[19:07:31] <petn-randall> schnabeltasse: Disabling DHCP is
not a security measure, it's just an inconvenience for anyone
connecting.
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2887[19:07:35] <schnabeltasse> or not useful against real
hackers. of course they are not interested in me and most of us
anyway.
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2890[19:07:59] <petn-randall> schnabeltasse: It's not even
useful against wannabe hackers. It's useful against guests
trying to use your wifi.
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2893[19:08:44] <schnabeltasse> whatever. i do what i do, and i
don't expect that it makes too much sense for someone els..
hehe..
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2898[19:09:28] <schnabeltasse> but you have to do something. that
is the point. it is impossible to do nothing.
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2899[19:09:39] <n4dir> that is the curse.
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2911[19:11:36] <teraflops> schnabeltasse: you want security? use
wpa2 enterprise with certificates and radius server
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2916[19:12:39] <schnabeltasse> no i can't afford that, i am
barely able to setup debian. here there is no one wanting to attack
me.
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2918[19:13:29] <schnabeltasse> but i had a client setup to use
such a network once.
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2920[19:14:32] <teraflops> fair enough, disabling WPS and having
a strong password is fine most of the time
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2926[19:15:14] <schnabeltasse> i don't need wireless. i
don't connect my smartphone to it anyway. my pc is setup with
cable.
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2927[19:15:16] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I'm having to
service a linux server with Debian LENNY (5)
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2929[19:15:28] <cluelessperson> however, it seems I can't
find still up archive mirrors
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2930[19:15:33] <cluelessperson> anyone have suggestions?
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2935[19:17:01] <centrx> cluelessperson: maybe
httpredir.debian.net ?
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2936[19:17:04] <centrx> cluelessperson: lenny is super old
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2938[19:17:42] <centrx> cluelessperson: security updates for
lenny stopped in 2012
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2941[19:18:06] <cluelessperson> centrx, yeah, I'm aware
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2942[19:18:41] <cluelessperson> centrx, old build server at work
everyone's been afraid to touch
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2948[19:20:08] <jhutchins> cluelessperson:
replaced-url
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2951[19:21:06] <cluelessperson> I'll try them out
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2952[19:21:39] <jhutchins> Doesn't seem to link to a repo.
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2955[19:22:05] <TomTomTosch> you are looking for
replaced-url
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2965[19:23:50] <n4dir> The debian wiki has an entry for the
sources list, but i don' t know more about it:
replaced-url
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2971[19:24:48] <jhutchins> TomTomTosch: archive.debian.org or
archive.debian.net?
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2973[19:25:45] <jhutchins> TomTomTosch: Yeah, it's org.
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2977[19:26:36] <jhutchins> cluelessperson:
replaced-url
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2982[19:29:31] <cluelessperson> I'm getting, "temporary
failure resolving"
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2983[19:29:32] <cluelessperson> jhutchins,
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2984[19:29:35] <TomTomTosch> you probably also want to put
"Acquire::Check-Valid-Until false;" in /etc/apt/apt.conf
as the valid-until field in the release files have expired years
ago.
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2985[19:29:50] <TomTomTosch> cluelessperson: then paste your
sources.list to paste.debian.net
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2987[19:30:29] <cluelessperson> ah, it was my resolve.conf
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2988[19:30:30] <cluelessperson> fixed
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2993[19:32:07] <user003> Is it preferable to backup
/home/.ecryptfs/$USER or backup /home/$user into its own encrypted
container/archive to restore?
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3341[20:40:06] <schnabeltasse> in irc it can be irritating when
everybody is talking at once
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3342[20:40:26] <n-iCe> we are not
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3346[20:41:15] <schnabeltasse> OK
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3348[20:41:58] <schnabeltasse> i am going shoveling snow. i hope
i'm not missing anything
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3351[20:42:46] <n-iCe> schnabeltasse: hehe